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    Good quality helmet mounted front and rear light?

    I have a decent front and rear light on my commuter. The rear blinkie is pretty good and the front light isn't bad but probably should be replaced for serious commuting. Rather than replace it, I'm thinking of getting a front and rear light helmet combo like the Light and Motion Vis 360 (which comes in a plus version at 250 lumens on high and a regular version at 120 lumens on high).

    So my question is this a no brainer decision? I should get the brighter of the two lights (i.e., take 250 lumens over 120). The price difference is around $70 between the two.

    Has anyone used the light and motion 360? Is it any good?

    Also what are the alternatives out there? I like the idea of a front and rear light on the helmet. I figure a rear blinkie on the bike, a rear blinkie on my bag, and a rear blinkie on my helmet plus 2 front lights is about right.

    Also this is not for trail riding. I commute in a city so I have no problem seeing the road; I just want to make sure that car drivers see me.
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    I like the idea of the vis 360, but I'm not sure if it would do what I want. If all I did was ride to work, I probably would buy one

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    I use the Niteflux Red Zone 8 on the back of my helmet. It doesn't come with a mount but you can use a simple velcro strap to make it work. Honestly it's the only rear light I'll ever need. The only others I would consider getting would be the PBSF Turbo (or the chinese knock-off version), or a Cygolite Hotshot. Everything else is so expensive and I'm not sure it's worth the money. But just my two cents, I've never had any experience with the lights you mentioned.

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    L&M Vis 360 are very good lights. IMO, the 360 is plenty for conspicuity. 360+ is brighter and adds appreciable road illumination if needed.

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    I've got the 120 lumen version of the 360. It's very well made and easy to use, but not bright enough to be my only light unless I'm loafing along.

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    I recently purchased the 360+.

    I've only used with 2 cateye battery lights an el-540 and the other slightly better. It puts out more light on low then the 2 of them combined. The Pattern is nice. On flash during the daytime, I can see it reflect from street signs a really long way off...

    I have just received a 3000lm MS clone. I doubt I'll ever run that on high.

    I bought the higher lumen for both helmet and bar to get the higher capacity battery. I plan on running them on low and they should hold up long enough for me to get to work and back on 1 charge. Low will be far more light then I've ever had on a bike. I hit nearly 40 on one hill on the way in but it is mostly on faith that nothing is in the road that I can't go over. I think I'll be able aim the MS clone far enough down the road to no longer out run my lights.

    The rear tail light is FAR brighter then the helmet mounted self leveling planet bike blinkie. But I think I need a friendly follower to see if I have it mounted acceptably for the light to be effective or if it is just lighting the sky when I'm in the drops.

    I guess I have been running with less, but will only do that again on emergency, either equipment/user failure or else sharing lights to get everyone home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Null66 View Post
    I recently purchased the 360+.

    I've only used with 2 cateye battery lights an el-540 and the other slightly better. It puts out more light on low then the 2 of them combined. The Pattern is nice. On flash during the daytime, I can see it reflect from street signs a really long way off...

    I have just received a 3000lm MS clone. I doubt I'll ever run that on high.

    I bought the higher lumen for both helmet and bar to get the higher capacity battery. I plan on running them on low and they should hold up long enough for me to get to work and back on 1 charge. Low will be far more light then I've ever had on a bike. I hit nearly 40 on one hill on the way in but it is mostly on faith that nothing is in the road that I can't go over. I think I'll be able aim the MS clone far enough down the road to no longer out run my lights.

    The rear tail light is FAR brighter then the helmet mounted self leveling planet bike blinkie. But I think I need a friendly follower to see if I have it mounted acceptably for the light to be effective or if it is just lighting the sky when I'm in the drops.

    I guess I have been running with less, but will only do that again on emergency, either equipment/user failure or else sharing lights to get everyone home.
    I think you'll be pretty happy with both of those lights, especially when it gets really dark out.

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