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    The only time someone attempted to scam me was with a bike that was selling at a too good to be true price. When I asked to see the bike, which was local, it was suddenly in the UK. If I wanted it I should just send the money and he would ship it. Right.

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    EBay does not handle complaints, bad users very well as far as I can tell. They have made it almost impossible to leave negative feedback. I was selling some brakes and the winning bidder never paid for them and wouldn't respond to messages. I was unable to leave negative feedback, and his eBay profile rated him 100% and included no bad reviews. I doubt if I was the first person that he scammed but how would other sellers or buyers know if eBay doesn't allow negative feedback?

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    I am surprised to hear these things. I have bought a lot of items on ebay and have sold two expensive items including a high-end Litespeed dual suspension mtb. I did not get my money on either item until the buyer was satisfied and it took about 3 weeks. For sellers without an established track record, they hold they seller's money for as long as 30 days on big ticket items. They are also quite strict about the description of the item being sold. They have lots of procedures in place to stop this sort of thing from happening. I have gotten a couple of duds on stuff I bought, nothing major. When I did get a dud, I re-read the description and the flaws were mentioned, I just didn't pay attention or they were subtly mentioned. The adage of "Buyer Beware" is always true. If you think you got a $200 light for $21, maybe something was wrong. True, you were not bidding on a Teddy bear and I'm sure ebay will refund your money. Ebay seems serious a protecting the integrity of their system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tarwheel View Post
    EBay does not handle complaints, bad users very well as far as I can tell. They have made it almost impossible to leave negative feedback. I was selling some brakes and the winning bidder never paid for them and wouldn't respond to messages. I was unable to leave negative feedback, and his eBay profile rated him 100% and included no bad reviews. I doubt if I was the first person that he scammed but how would other sellers or buyers know if eBay doesn't allow negative feedback?
    Yup. A couple of years ago they shifted heavily toward the buyer. Sellers can't leave negative feedback. But the logic is reasonable. Sellers don't ship until they've been paid --so no one is damaged monetarily when buyer backs out. There were apparently loads of cases where sellers sleazed out, got negative feedback, and then retaliated on the cheated buyer by leaving them negative feedback. Buyer got cheated AND rec'd negative feedback. Apparently that was way too common.
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    musical instruments on ebay are famous for one side or the other being a scammer. Sellers that ship an empty guitar case, or buyers that take the guitar out of the box and show ebay a picture of an empty guitar case. Actually, real life scammers used to show people a desirable item, and then when the money was exchanged they would "put it in the original packaging" and the person would later find that it had been replaced by a brick or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaIslander View Post
    I did not get my money on either item until the buyer was satisfied and it took about 3 weeks.
    I thought seller always holds the item until being paid. Why would you ship it if they haven't paid? Are you required by eBay to ship it within certain days even without being paid?

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    In ~2000 transactions (90% as a buyer) I've never seen a seller ship before being paid. Nor would I do it.
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    No, but if you're a seller without a lot of ratings, paypal will hold it in your account and not allow you to withdraw it until the buyer puts in positive feedback even if you don't ship until the money is in your account. Paypal will freeze your account (or at least that portion of it) in those circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vol View Post
    I thought seller always holds the item until being paid. Why would you ship it if they haven't paid? Are you required by eBay to ship it within certain days even without being paid?
    When the buyer pays and ebay receives funds, they email the seller and instruct to "Ship now". Seller ships the item, ebay has the money, ebay releases the funds to the seller when the buyer has received the item and is satisfied. It is simple and seems to work. As a seller, I had to patient about my money. On the other side, as a buyer of a high-end bicycle, I would not want it any other way.

    They must have more lenient funds release policy on smaller items. You will get your money back from ebay. As a former banker, all I could think of is massive amount of money they have piled up somewhere from lagging payments on all those transactions. They daily investment of those funds provides a strong source of revenue.

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    I guess that explains why you get emails and other notifications from eBay to leave feedback right away. The last few items I bought were small and I didn't get that, but a few larger ones I did.

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    A curios question for those of you who sell on eBay: how come many of the feedback comments different sellers left for buyers are exactly the same, verbatim (such as "Great communication. A pleasure to do business with")? They definitely are not the same seller with different user ids.

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