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    B&M Eyc T senso plus or B&M Lumotec IQ Cyo T senso plus?

    These lights have the same price. Which one would you recommend for general commuting, including some very dark areas?

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    Eyc N plus, no need for daytime light and the lens and led is newer than the iq cyo version.

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    I just got a Lumotec IQ Cyo Premium Senso Plus. 100US$ landed from Europe. Couldn't be happier. Nice bump over the old Cyo.

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    I'd agree with znomit. The Premium version is $79usd from France plus shipping. It is 80 lux vs. I think 40 for the Eyc. Of course the Eyc costs less from xxcycle.com. I'm thinking either the Cyo premium senso plus, the Luxus B, or the Philips Saferide 60. I'm leaning towards the Cyo at this point as it has the highest output.

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    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by znomit View Post
    I just got a Lumotec IQ Cyo Premium Senso Plus. 100US$ landed from Europe. Couldn't be happier. Nice bump over the old Cyo.
    I would personally agree with znomit as well - in fact in the spring I *am* going to buy the premium version myself (don't like to order stuff when I can't use them right away).

    For the Eyc, I'm a little concerned by Peter White's comments -
    For hilly terrain on otherwise unlit roads it's not ideal because there's a bit too much light close to the bike, so on a fast descent you'll be a bit less able to see things well at a distance.

    One of the things I love about the non-premium Cyo I currently own is that it's a non-blinding light - in the city my peripheral and long distance version is not negatively affected when I turned it on (whereas it is with most other lights).

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    The 2, day running LED in the Eyc T are the standlight when you stop.. I fit mine on my Brompton..

    its small size is good , there..

    so its 20" off the ground.. It seems OK. Standlight enough to put my key in the front door lock..

    I assume the other Eyc dims the main LED when you stop. to same effect.

    that is what happens when I stop , with the eDelux on another bike ..
    26" wheel, fork crown is 10" higher up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulRivers View Post
    For the Eyc, I'm a little concerned by Peter White's comments -
    For hilly terrain on otherwise unlit roads it's not ideal because there's a bit too much light close to the bike, so on a fast descent you'll be a bit less able to see things well at a distance.
    Typical peterwhitecycles.com bs. I cannot find this to be the case at all with eyc I've used, and I'm sure other owners would agree. In light of this, I'd still go for the Cyo Premium instead of the Eyc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbubbles View Post
    Typical peterwhitecycles.com bs. I cannot find this to be the case at all with eyc I've used, and I'm sure other owners would agree. In light of this, I'd still go for the Cyo Premium instead of the Eyc.
    I don't own it, so don't have an opinion based on using it (I own the older Cyo, but not the Eyc), you definitely could be write. Peter White uses a lot of declarative language "this will happen!" for stuff he's really just hypothetically rambling on about.

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