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    My OpenStreetMap Experience

    Rather than buying the Garmin maps for my Edge 800, I decided to give OSM a try. You just need a micro SD card to put them on. The Garmin 800 connects to computer as a USB 1 device so file transfers are extremely slow. For a large map it is better to use a card reader to transfer the file. The maps from here are updated about every week: http://www.osmmaps.com/ . This site has a good set of instructions for installing the maps: http://ridewithgps.com/help/garmin-edge-800

    The OSM maps are only as good as the mappers in your area have made them. Fortunately since anyone can edit the map that is something you can help with. For an area that has been thoroughly mapped, the biggest difference between the Garmin and OSM maps is the meta data. Garmin's maps include a huge database of zip/postal codes, street addressing and business / attraction names. The OSM maps typically have none of that aside from businesses and places that have specifically drawn on the map.

    When riding a route discrepancies between the OSM map, map used to create the tcx course, and reality can cause it some confusion. Where the two maps cross each other it thinks there is an intersection so you can get annoying phantom turn instructions. Most of the ride mapping sites seem to use Google's maps. Garmin Connect does have the option of generating a course based on OSM data, so it would eliminate the discrepancy between the route and on board map.

    During the fall I did a lot of rural road riding where I noticed the maps near me were very incomplete outside the city. I contemplated getting the Garmin maps, but instead decided to start editing the OSM maps. Since I was making so many updates I didn't want to keep downloading a huge map file for the entire country. I found out I could generate my own map for my province current as of 4pm the previous day. If anyone is interested I could put together instructions for generating maps as the OSM documentation is somewhat convoluted.

    OSM has a web browser based editor for making changes to the map and I recommend giving it a try. But their downloadable program JOSM is much more powerful. The web editor is limited to drawing roads, but JOSM lets you open data files an copy / paste in new roads. For Canada the government has made available OSM compatible geographic files for the entire country. Adding alleys manually to my own city took two weeks. Using the data files to add alleys to a larger city took a day. And adding all rural roads to an area of about 270,000 square km took 3 weeks.

    You can also use the gpx files from your rides to help spot areas where roads are missing. I did this to add new sections of MUP that don't even appear in the satellite imagery yet. Also to add those little paved paths that run between houses providing pedestrians access to parallel roads without going to the end of the block.

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    I had OSM issues where some roads were not routable or some were erroneously characterized as one-way. Also, I frequently get totally wacky turn prompt diagrams. An upside of OSMs was that routes calculated about twice as fast as with Garmin maps.
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    One thing that is important for routing is that roads don't simple cross each other but they are connected. In the past few weeks I also came across a few roads where people tried to trace numerous roads in the satellite pics in a single continuous line that crossed and overlapped itself. There is a web service called Map Roulette that tries to detect connectivity errors and randomly presents them to users of the site for correction. So things should get better over time if you periodically download new maps.

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    [QUOTE=gecho;16413504]Rather than buying the Garmin maps for my Edge 800, I decided to give OSM a try./QUOTE]

    The free version of MapsWithMe relies on OSM and is good enough if you don't need to add POIs. If a map is missing, it'll prompt the user whether to download it. Love it.

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    I discovered that RideWithGPS now allows you to build routes based on OpenStreetMap. The last time I tried this, it displayed the OSM map but routed based on Google Maps, so I couldn't route along roads I had added to OSM. This should cut down on the instances of Garmin routing freakout.

    There can be some problems. I encountered a few roads that route planner wouldn't let me go down. Turns out two lines were butted up against each other but not connected (which I then went and fixed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gecho View Post
    I discovered that RideWithGPS now allows you to build routes based on OpenStreetMap. The last time I tried this, it displayed the OSM map but routed based on Google Maps, so I couldn't route along roads I had added to OSM. This should cut down on the instances of Garmin routing freakout.

    There can be some problems. I encountered a few roads that route planner wouldn't let me go down. Turns out two lines were butted up against each other but not connected (which I then went and fixed).
    Ah, thanks for that info. That will come in useful if I decide to download OSM onto my phones' SD card. Since I have the option of using the locus app for navigating my RWGPS route I have new options. The locus app gives the user the option of choosing which router he wishes to use and I believe that OSM is one of them ( although it is likely an on-line option ) I don't know if OSM offers an off-line router or not....anyone know?

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    Not particularly happy with the default style mkgmap uses to generate OSM maps I did some experimenting with styles this week.

    I came across a great site for maps: Free worldwide Garmin maps from OpenStreetMap You can choose an area, map style and they'll add your request to a queue, generate the map and e-mail you a download link. Sometimes the wait time is a few hours, other times a few days. I'd probably come across this site before, but never downloaded their maps. The "Generic Routable (new style)" and "Routable Bicycle (Openfietsmap Lite)" option would be the best choices. What really sets these apart from the default map style are the way roads are rendered. In the default style service roads and all types of paths look identical. With these styles service roads, alleys, foot paths, cycle paths all look different. Roads that are unpaved get a marker applied, and roads that are dirt have their own style. Though these road surface features depend on mappers having entered it.


    They also have a Google Code project (https://code.google.com/p/mkgmap-sty...source/browse/) where their style sheets and graphics definition file is available, which was exactly what I was looking for. I made a few tweaks to the "new style" (labeled as "world" in the project) for the maps I generate myself. I made paths appear red so they stand out, disabled the gravel indicator for alleys, modified the gravel indicator so it stands out more, and made the buildings get drawn darker.

    The OpenFietsMap styles are available here: Customize the map - OpenFietsMap though I haven't worked with those yet.

    Editing styles can be tricky. There are text files that can be edited and also a TYP file that defines what roads, pois and polygon fills look like. A typ editor is needed to modify the bitmaps, this one is free (https://sites.google.com/site/sherco40/home). The "Generic Routable (new style)" typ file has the text disabled for most polygons due to the high level of mapping detail in the Netherlands. I needed to use a type editor to re-enable the rendering of text labels for my map.

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