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    Quote Originally Posted by lopek77 View Post
    You misunderstood my opinion. I was both criticizing AND pointing what I like. We either talking about my original opinion about the product, or opinion about the opinion... I got really confused what you really want. Let's stick to the bike tool topic. I don't need third party to relay and mix opinions.
    Again...its a great idea, nicely done product and great presentation. With that said, I know it will reach only to a very small pool of potential consumers, and many of them won't see the value, practicality and usefulness of this product.
    I hope we done with this.
    It's a poor idea. Your criticisms indicate that it is not "practical" or "useful". And what you like about it don't make sense.

    The vast majority of riders would be much better served with a mini tool for much less money than this gimmick. Buying this would be a waste. Which means it's not " valuable " either.
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    Adding all that weight increases the odds that a dropped phone with that attached will be fatal for the Phone. .

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    It's hard for me to believe that a pedal wrench made out of laser cut steel that thick will work, or that you'd have enough leverage if it did.

    I use regular drop forged wrenches, and I typically have to exert a LOT of force at the end of an 8" wrench to get a pedal loose. I tried using a stamped steel Park "pedal wrench" once and it just spread wide open and was immediately destroyed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsJustMe View Post
    It's hard for me to believe that a pedal wrench made out of laser cut steel that thick will work, or that you'd have enough leverage if it did.

    I use regular drop forged wrenches, and I typically have to exert a LOT of force at the end of an 8" wrench to get a pedal loose. I tried using a stamped steel Park "pedal wrench" once and it just spread wide open and was immediately destroyed.
    The only way such a "pedal" wrench would generally be useful is for putting the pedal on. Regardless, removing/installing pedals seems like an odd thing for most people to be worried about while riding. (I've needed a chain-breaker more often than I've needed a pedal wrench (never) on a ride.)

    (Putting a bit of grease on the pedal threads before installing makes the pedals easier to remove.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    Adding all that weight increases the odds that a dropped phone with that attached will be fatal for the Phone. .
    Yeah, and wait until you're at the end of a longer than expected, cold, dirt hammer ride, exhausted and numb-fingered from the cold rain, and you've got to pull out your handy-dandy iPhone tool kit! So it gets wets, you fumble it pulling the tool try out, and crack the screen on the ground...

    Really, I want this thread to die so that I can stop thinking of this STUNNINGLY ILL-CONCEIVED concept!!
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    These will be great stocking fillers for the cyclist in your life that you have no idea what to buy for. Of course they will never be used but christmas is all about buying junk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adcomp View Post
    Hi BikeForums, I hope everyone is having a good thursday morning!

    I wanted to run my new design bike tool by everyone for some feedback. A disclaimer, I have recently posted the project on a crowdfunding website, but won't include the links here so I don't spam you guys. If you want the link you can PM me. (there are some fun videos on the campaign!).

    I am actually looking for some good feedback from the community - I am based in Atlantas so anyone in Atlanta if they are interested in checking it out, let me know I would be happy to meet-up!

    At any rate, I am a designer and biker form Atlanta, and my goal on this project was to make a great bike tool that has some real, high-quality tools but is extra slim and can be stored right inside your phone case! What I came up with is a phone case that has a swappable tray containing the tools you need for quick bike repair. All the tools are 440C Hardened Stainless, and very durable. Here is the list of tools:

    • Two tire irons
    • Pedal/Axle wrench
    • Flathead screwdriver
    • Phillips screwdriver
    • 6 Allen wrenches (1/16, 2.5mm, 3mm, 4mm, 5mm, 6mm)
    • 4 Box wrenches (5.5mm, 7mm, 8mm, 10mm)
    • two spoke wrenches (.127 and .130)
    • Three glueless tire patches
    • Roughener for tire patch application
    • Bottle opener (for the end of the ride!)


    Here are some photos of the product, it weights 80g total, but packs a lot of tools into a super slim space that is really convenient to carry. Ultimately I would like to add a handlebar mount accessory if my crowdfunding campaign is successful so you got your nav and tools all in one! Anxious to hear the community's feedback, thoughts and questions!
    Interesting idea but a few concerns.

    Multi tools in general seem to be great in theory but practically very limited if you need to actually use them. I carry a multi tool as a fallback but also carry a few loose Allen keys, a loose chain breaker etc. As others have said it's often very hard to get the tool from a multi tool into the place it needs to be. Trying to get the cross-head screwdriver into place to adjust my RD is all but impossible because the rest of it is bulky. So something that puts a collection of individual tools in one place and keeps the size down is good. That said each tool has to be something I'd have some confidence in using - your 6 allen wrenches in one tool looks like something that's too small to get any decent torque on it and too flimsy to survive even if you could.

    The idea of a phone case containing tools seems utterly pointless to me. Firstly I don't really want tools weighing down my phone, secondly I've already got a phone case, and thirdly unless you're going to be aiming at a very limited market you're going to have to produce so many different sizes and shapes of case you'll spend more on designing cases than you will on designing tools. If your primary business is phone cases and you happen to chuck some tools into some of them then go ahead but if your primary business is bike tools look for a different container. Just look at the proliferation of phones and phone cases out there to see what I mean.
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