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    Question Couple of questions about editing RideWithGPS routes

    Hello,

    I finally understood what control points, and how to use them to edit a route. But I have a couple more questions:

    1. To remove a segment between control points A and B, the user must remove all the control points between A and B, and drag and drop the route, adding control points if necessary. It's just not possible to make A and B "sticky", and simply drag and drop the route between the two control points in one go. Correct?

    This is very time consuming when there are at lot of control points between A and B.

    2. After creating a route, I'd like to add a "round-trip section" to go to a location and back, and resume the trip. For instance, let's say the route goes from Boston to NYC, and I'd like to edit the route to be Boston, Montreal, Boston, NYC.

    I didn't find a way to add a segment in an already existing route. Is there a way?

    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winfried View Post
    Hello,

    I finally understood what control points, and how to use them to edit a route. But I have a couple more questions:

    1. To remove a segment between control points A and B, the user must remove all the control points between A and B, and drag and drop the route, adding control points if necessary. It's just not possible to make A and B "sticky", and simply drag and drop the route between the two control points in one go. Correct?

    This is very time consuming when there are at lot of control points between A and B.
    Control points pin the route to the map. You can't drag them with the route.

    You might not need as many control points as you are using.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winfried View Post
    2. After creating a route, I'd like to add a "round-trip section" to go to a location and back, and resume the trip. For instance, let's say the route goes from Boston to NYC, and I'd like to edit the route to be Boston, Montreal, Boston, NYC.

    I didn't find a way to add a segment in an already existing route. Is there a way?
    The subscription add some extra editing features. But I don't think you can add segments like that.

    NYC to Montreal is 350 miles. Are you planning to do that in one shot?

    If you are doing a multiple day trip with planned places to stay, it would be easier to do separate routes for each day.

    If you re planning on using the routes on a garmin, shorter routes tend to work better anyway.
    Last edited by njkayaker; 04-12-14 at 04:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
    You might not need as many control points as you are using.
    I'll try next time, but I find that it's the only way to make sure RwGPS goes through where I want when riding in busy areas.

    Quote Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
    NYC to Montreal is 350 miles. Are you planning to do that in one shot?
    It was just a theoretical example. Too bad it's no possible to add a segment in an existing route.

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    By add a segment, do you mean just add in a detour? I don't see why you can't do that.

    Stick control points on either side of your proposed detour spot and then just drag the route to your new destination, it should work fine. Obviously, you have to be editing your route, not viewing it, and if you don't have control points established on either side of your new changes it will do evil things to your route.

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    If you have an existing route in RWGPS, select edit, and you can add to it, subtract from it, move control points etc. and then save it as a new route.

    If you want to move a piece of a route, first click on Add/Remove control points, delete all the points on the section you wish to move, then click on ADD/Remove again and drag the red line to where you want it to go, which will leave a control point where you let go of the mouse button. Grab the red line a little further along and drag it to where you want it.

    When placing a control point, don't do it at an or near an intersection.
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    Thanks but still no go.

    Let's say I originally wanted to ride from Rochester to Kennebunkport, but after drawing the route, I'd like to take a detour, and ride the extra segment North Berwick - Bauneg Beg Pond (3 miles north) - North Berwick before resuming.

    Dummy Route - A bike ride in Rochester, NH

    How would I add this round-trip without redrawing the whole thing?

    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winfried View Post
    Thanks but still no go.

    Let's say I originally wanted to ride from Rochester to Kennebunkport, but after drawing the route, I'd like to take a detour, and ride the extra segment North Berwick - Bauneg Beg Pond (3 miles north) - North Berwick before resuming.

    Dummy Route - A bike ride in Rochester, NH

    How would I add this round-trip without redrawing the whole thing?

    Thank you.
    That's a much less "theoretical" example!

    It's easy/fast to do and people do it all the time.

    Add control points before and after the new segment. Remove any control points in between the two you added. Drag the route to the new location and edit it as necessary.

    In your example, it looks like you are talking about an out-and-back on High Street to Bauneg Beg Pond. To do that, you'd add a control point on Wells Road before High Street and a second control point on Elm Street. You'd then delete any control points and cue sheet entries between the two new control points. Then, you'd drag the route between the two control points up High Street to the turn-around.

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    Thanks, finally got the hang of it.

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