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    Thank you very much for the shots. I look at where my current 500 lands and I can already tell that they stock mount just isnt going to be out far enough, ordering the K-Edge today. Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raidboss View Post
    Thank you very much for the shots. I look at where my current 500 lands and I can already tell that they stock mount just isnt going to be out far enough, ordering the K-Edge today. Thanks again
    No problem.. Make sure you order the XL version of the K-Edge for use with the 1000.
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    I'd be interested to see what a plain old OpenStreetMap map looks like on the Edge 1000. I suspect it would look a lot like the included map. It all depends on whether the improved visual style is part of the Edge unit or baked into their map.

    I contacted Garmin support and they had no idea and weren't inclined to look into it further. But they did cast doubt on the accuracy of OSM based maps, which is odd since the included map is OSM based. They did tell me that they expect map updates will be released few times a year. But since I update OSM for my local area on a daily basis, I've been generating a map for just my province every few weeks.

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    Quick update:

    I have been getting BT disconnects more often. These disconnects happen when / if I stop to take break, enjoy the scenery, or chat with other cyclists. The Edge does recover and reconnect to Garmin Connect but it's still a bit troublesome..

    On 2 occasions I've even had complete sensor disconnects. Again, this only happens when I am stopped and it is related to the BT disconnects. The sensors do reconnect but still a slight issue..

    I am not getting the 'locked screen' issues because I am using the Edge Remote.

    My Shimano D-Fly arrived for the Di2 and it paired right up instantly and I've had no issues with it thus far. You do need to have the Di2 system on your bike updated to the latest firmware for the D Fly to work.

    The Garmin Connect website is very, very slow making the leaderboards for Segments. I made 2 different segments on May 24th and these still do not have leader boards built for them.

    Bugs:

    Complete BT disconnects (do not happen often but are a pain)
    Partial BT disconnect (fails to sync with Garmin Connect Phone App)
    Sensor disconnects (are directly tired into the complete BT disconnects)
    Screen Locked bug (not an issue if you use the Edge Remote)
    Segment leader boards not getting created

    I've not used maps, navigation or live track so I can't comment on them..
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    Do the sensors go to sleep after they stop registering the crank/wheel magnet after a bit? If they are BT LE that might be part of the Low Energy label....

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    New in-depth Edge 1000 review on DC Rainmaker: Garmin Edge 1000 In-Depth Review | DC Rainmaker
    Ride more. Fret less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looigi View Post
    New in-depth Edge 1000 review on DC Rainmaker: Garmin Edge 1000 In-Depth Review | DC Rainmaker
    Thanks for the link, wow, Garmin should be embarrassed by releasing such a buggy device. Would it have killed them to work some of the simple stuff out prior to launch? Aside from the blue tooth connectivity problems and the random screen locks, the lack of bike profiles that could track miles per bike instead of this method of lumping them all together as one makes no sense to me. Considering I've had my 810 for a year now and I'm still trying to work bugs out, I'm not confident Garmin will fix all that is wrong with the 1000 as quickly as you'd like. However, if I didn't already own the 810 and was in the market for a GPS computer, I suppose I'd seriously consider this in spite of the problems but I'd probably wait a little while longer to see if it gets fixed.

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    After a year and a half I have finally gotten to the point where my Garmin 510 works right--sort of.

    Not about to buy a new Garmin device and spend another year or so trying to get it to work.
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    I just ordered one (triple points at performance) was too much to resist. I have an 810 that is working fine right now and yes I am afraid to update the firmware since everything is working...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
    After a year and a half I have finally gotten to the point where my Garmin 510 works right--sort of.

    Not about to buy a new Garmin device and spend another year or so trying to get it to work.
    Mine goes back tomorrow..

    Here is the current list of bugs that I have had it with..


    • Screen Locks and unit can't be used
    • Constant Bluetooth disconnects.
    • Constant sensor disconnects
    • WiFi broken
    • Maps and navigation are a disaster
    • Live track busted (BT related)
    • Phone and text alerts busted (BT related)
    • Elevation is a mess
    • Segments are a disaster
    • Di2 gear information can't be saved


    There are more, many, many more that others are reporting as well..
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    Quote Originally Posted by raqball View Post
    Mine goes back tomorrow..

    Here is the current list of bugs that I have had it with..


    • Screen Locks and unit can't be used
    • Constant Bluetooth disconnects.
    • Constant sensor disconnects
    • WiFi broken
    • Maps and navigation are a disaster
    • Live track busted (BT related)
    • Phone and text alerts busted (BT related)
    • Elevation is a mess
    • Segments are a disaster
    • Di2 gear information can't be saved


    There are more, many, many more that others are reporting as well..
    i don't understand why Garmin keeps putting out products before the bugs are worked out. It happened with the 500, 510, 800, and 810.

    like many, I hesitate to upgrade the current firmware in my 510. It is working OK now, why tempt faith?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
    i don't understand why Garmin keeps putting out products before the bugs are worked out...
    They start selling new upgraded models before they've worked out the bugs of the ones they've discontinued.
    Ride more. Fret less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
    i don't understand why Garmin keeps putting out products before the bugs are worked out. It happened with the 500, 510, 800, and 810.

    like many, I hesitate to upgrade the current firmware in my 510. It is working OK now, why tempt faith?
    It happened with the 705 too. One firmware version would cause history files to not write properly, so you'd get home and work to synch to GC (this was before Strava and half the sites out there now) and you wouldn't have a valid file. Simply put, their software development team (or contractor, if they outsource it) just doesn't do a very good job. And on a device like an Edge, the software is as important as the hardware, really. If the software doesn't work, all the functionality you're supposed to get doesn't either.

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    I am officially done with Garmin.. My 810 was a mess until firmware 3.0. I sold it saying I'd never buy Garmin again and started researching other options.. Then I saw the feature list of the 1000 and I foolishly bought it hoping it worked.

    My bad! Never and I mean never again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by raqball View Post
    Mine goes back tomorrow..

    Here is the current list of bugs that I have had it with..


    • Screen Locks and unit can't be used
    • Constant Bluetooth disconnects.
    • Constant sensor disconnects
    • WiFi broken
    • Maps and navigation are a disaster
    • Live track busted (BT related)
    • Phone and text alerts busted (BT related)
    • Elevation is a mess
    • Segments are a disaster
    • Di2 gear information can't be saved


    There are more, many, many more that others are reporting as well..
    Well it certainly sounds like you didn't have much luck with the Garmin products. That's kind of sad. I can't help but wonder if you just got a bad one. Did you try getting a replacement? I'm assuming that you contacted Garmin about the problems you were having. Did the Garmin people have any response to the problems you were having? With all the problems you had with the one you bought I just can't help thinking that ( perhaps ) a replacement might have worked better.

    Regardless, $600 is a lot to pay for a product that can't deliver on all the promised selling points. Certainly I can't blame you for returning the product if you had ALL the problems that you say you did. I just can't help wondering though how Garmin can manage to stay in business if their bike product line is so faulty.

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    just got mine... won't ride until the weekend, but set everything up ok. Will be using lots of gizmos to communicate with it :

    Powertap powermeter
    Garmin Cadence and Speed sensors and heart rate
    Iphone 5s for live tracking..
    Courses are loaded.. won't bother with segments yet ( I like strava)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01 CAt Man Do View Post
    Well it certainly sounds like you didn't have much luck with the Garmin products. That's kind of sad. I can't help but wonder if you just got a bad one. Did you try getting a replacement? I'm assuming that you contacted Garmin about the problems you were having. Did the Garmin people have any response to the problems you were having? With all the problems you had with the one you bought I just can't help thinking that ( perhaps ) a replacement might have worked better.

    Regardless, $600 is a lot to pay for a product that can't deliver on all the promised selling points. Certainly I can't blame you for returning the product if you had ALL the problems that you say you did. I just can't help wondering though how Garmin can manage to stay in business if their bike product line is so faulty.
    Check out the official Garmin forums for the Edge 1000.. It's littered with users who've had the same issues as I did.. It's really quite sad..
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    your list of complaints is echoed by dcrainmaker, so it definitely seems to be built-in
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    It's a wonderful sport when you can make up for a lack of ability with a lack of sleep

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    Quote Originally Posted by gecho View Post
    I'd be interested to see what a plain old OpenStreetMap map looks like on the Edge 1000. I suspect it would look a lot like the included map. It all depends on whether the improved visual style is part of the Edge unit or baked into their map.

    I contacted Garmin support and they had no idea and weren't inclined to look into it further. But they did cast doubt on the accuracy of OSM based maps, which is odd since the included map is OSM based. They did tell me that they expect map updates will be released few times a year. But since I update OSM for my local area on a daily basis, I've been generating a map for just my province every few weeks.
    Garmin support doubted the accuracy of OSM maps???? - only reason is cause those suckers never went out on a real ride in their lives. They are just office based workers. OSM maps are the best thing since slice bread - Garmin official maps are good for the roads but off trails or off roads are so much more accurate in the OSM maps. The garmin maps and Topo are pretty close to useless for trails and off road in Victoria (australia). OSM is the way to go for these type of terrain - maintained by real users.

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    any idea how much to change the battery in the Edge 1000 or the Edge 810 when the lithium dies?

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    you can buy replacement batteries from 3rd parties for the 800. Probably will be similar availability for the 1000. I don't know how much Garmin would charge, I'm sure it's not particularly cheap.
    Randonneuring -- it's touring for people that aren't smart enough to stop for the night.
    It's a wonderful sport when you can make up for a lack of ability with a lack of sleep

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    Started with V2.3

    No lockups
    All my sensors connected and stayed connected Powermeter, cadence, speed, HRM
    Turn by turn directions where nice and gave me plenty of time (something my 810 didn't do well)
    Live tracking worked off and on.. I ride in some area where cell phone signal drop, so that is normal.
    BT seems semi-unstable.. lots of drops and reconnects.. could be because of my location when riding.. (boonies)
    Auto upload worked fine
    WiFi connected fine too
    Screen is much easier to read then 810 ( one screen has 9 items )

    Overall good first outing.. battery use was higher then 810 for sure.. Usually after this ride I have 80% left.. the 1000 had 75%. But I went off course (on purpose) a bit so there was constant re-directs that I ignored. I don't care of about segments, so I will probably never use that. They should just hold hands with strava and call it done.

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    Anyone know if v2.3 has fixed most or many of the bugs? Thinking about getting one for an upcoming trip, but not if it's still in beta mode.

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    The Garmin Edge 1000 forums are still blazing with problems after the 2.3 update.

    With Garmin, it's always 2 steps forward and 1 step back for at least the 1st year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raqball View Post
    I am officially done with Garmin.. My 810 was a mess until firmware 3.0. I sold it saying I'd never buy Garmin again and started researching other options.. Then I saw the feature list of the 1000 and I foolishly bought it hoping it worked.

    My bad! Never and I mean never again!
    My 810 is still a mess if I load a saved course and try to have it navigate. At some point during the ride it goes all wonky or jumps to another nearby road that I'm not even on. If I have to detour it tries to route me back to where I left the course instead of rerouting to the nearest point on the course. Don't even get me started on the frequent connection error problems with live track on my phone and uploading the course when I'm done. I've thought I had it working but then yesterday, during a 40 mile ride, it kept truing to reroute me. I chose the option to prompt for reroute but instead of rerouting back to the nearest point on the course, it kept trying to reroute me to the point where I left the course (again due to a detour I needed to take due to road construction). I have to say, Garmin is not going to be my next choice. I'm so fed up with all these problems. The 1000 sounds like just more of the same based on everyone's comments here. Screw Garmin.

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