Warning to anyone with Cree headlamps
07-04-14, 03:00 PM
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Warning to anyone with Cree headlamps
Just a warning to anyone running Cree headlamps, had the charger plugged in with it not charging anything and noticed today it's melted a big hole into the side:
07-04-14, 03:14 PM
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Cree didn't make that charger. Cree makes just the emitter within the lamp, not even the driving electronics for it.
What you have there is a crappy Chinese charger sourced by whoever made the light. Nothing to do with Cree.
This warning would be just as appropriate for people with cell phones - those chargers can catch fire as well.
This warning is akin to saying "Warning, anyone who has a car with a Motorcraft air cleaner under the hood - mine does and last night the flashlight in my glove compartment caught fire."
What you have there is a crappy Chinese charger sourced by whoever made the light. Nothing to do with Cree.
This warning would be just as appropriate for people with cell phones - those chargers can catch fire as well.
This warning is akin to saying "Warning, anyone who has a car with a Motorcraft air cleaner under the hood - mine does and last night the flashlight in my glove compartment caught fire."
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07-04-14, 03:39 PM
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Name and shame the seller please.
07-04-14, 03:49 PM
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Cree didn't make that charger. Cree makes just the emitter within the lamp, not even the driving electronics for it.
What you have there is a crappy Chinese charger sourced by whoever made the light. Nothing to do with Cree.
This warning would be just as appropriate for people with cell phones - those chargers can catch fire as well.
This warning is akin to saying "Warning, anyone who has a car with a Motorcraft air cleaner under the hood - mine does and last night the flashlight in my glove compartment caught fire."
What you have there is a crappy Chinese charger sourced by whoever made the light. Nothing to do with Cree.
This warning would be just as appropriate for people with cell phones - those chargers can catch fire as well.
This warning is akin to saying "Warning, anyone who has a car with a Motorcraft air cleaner under the hood - mine does and last night the flashlight in my glove compartment caught fire."
sjmalistock2008 on eBay already told them
07-04-14, 03:59 PM
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If you have a national electrical safety body notify them too. That thing likely isn't safety tested and can burn someone's house down.
07-04-14, 04:21 PM
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This is actually the LED emitter. The rest is Chinese mfg.
Yep, this is just another Chinese seller that dumps this stuff worldwide. Just look at the grammar on the site:
Yep, this is just another Chinese seller that dumps this stuff worldwide. Just look at the grammar on the site:
- Output bright can come to max
- Internal wiring applies the high efficient booster circuit, working voltage is wide and can utilize the batteries in the largest extent.
- Waterproofing design
- Strong Brightness / Normal Brightness / Flashing
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07-04-14, 04:55 PM
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Along with what RoadTire listed, there's this little gem
. "If the item comes direct from a manufacturer, it may be delivered in non-retail packaging, such as a plain or unprinted box or plastic bag".
Now you have no idea who actually made the thing.
. "If the item comes direct from a manufacturer, it may be delivered in non-retail packaging, such as a plain or unprinted box or plastic bag".
Now you have no idea who actually made the thing.
07-05-14, 04:01 AM
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Just adding my two cents to what the others said; When it comes to cheap electronics, ( IMO ) it is not unusual for the charger to go up first. Some localities have big time voltage swings off of their main grid. Not unusual to see cheap electronics taken out by voltage surges. I've had chargers and other more expensive appliances go up due to voltage surges. It happens. This is why I always suggest doing the following: Never charge batteries when there is not someone present ( who understands the danger ) to watch over things...AND....use a surge protector on all electronics that operate or charge off of line-voltage.
07-05-14, 08:42 AM
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It is a UK plug for 220v mains, not US/CDN 110v.
Electric Teakettles come to a boil quicker, over there.
Electric Teakettles come to a boil quicker, over there.
07-05-14, 09:56 AM
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I too need to replace chargers.
I'm in the US.
Anyone have recommendations for a good charger for these 4x1650 battery packs, also will they work with the 4x2650 or the 6x1650?
While I'm at it, one battery pack is discharging faster, need longer runtime anyway.
Is it better to get 6x1650 or 4x2650? And are some better then others? If so any recommended?
I'm in the US.
Anyone have recommendations for a good charger for these 4x1650 battery packs, also will they work with the 4x2650 or the 6x1650?
While I'm at it, one battery pack is discharging faster, need longer runtime anyway.
Is it better to get 6x1650 or 4x2650? And are some better then others? If so any recommended?
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Just adding my two cents to what the others said; When it comes to cheap electronics, ( IMO ) it is not unusual for the charger to go up first. Some localities have big time voltage swings off of their main grid. Not unusual to see cheap electronics taken out by voltage surges. I've had chargers and other more expensive appliances go up due to voltage surges. It happens. This is why I always suggest doing the following: Never charge batteries when there is not someone present ( who understands the danger ) to watch over things...AND....use a surge protector on all electronics that operate or charge off of line-voltage.
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07-05-14, 10:05 AM
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I too need to replace chargers.
I'm in the US.
Anyone have recommendations for a good charger for these 4x1650 battery packs, also will they work with the 4x2650 or the 6x1650?
While I'm at it, one battery pack is discharging faster, need longer runtime anyway.
Is it better to get 6x1650 or 4x2650? And are some better then others? If so any recommended?
I'm in the US.
Anyone have recommendations for a good charger for these 4x1650 battery packs, also will they work with the 4x2650 or the 6x1650?
While I'm at it, one battery pack is discharging faster, need longer runtime anyway.
Is it better to get 6x1650 or 4x2650? And are some better then others? If so any recommended?
Best advice I can give is https://budgetlightforum.com It's like the bikeforums of the flashlight world. And includes cyclists as well. Lots of reviews, personal experiences, ad-hoc opinionated opinions, beam shots, and vendors also participating.
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Although this is about just the charger, and I do think it's a good idea to keep them unplugged when not in use, the charging of 18650 batteries should not be left unattended. If overcharged and with a failure of protection electronics these batteries can experience thermal runaway and explode after releasing highly flammable hydrogen gas.
07-05-14, 02:44 PM
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Warning to anyone with Cree headlamps
This is precisely why, as a component manufacturer, I wouldn't want my brand as the face of the subassembly. I brought this up before, and a lot of people disagreed.
07-05-14, 03:39 PM
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Yes I agree with you. It seems the brand name "Cree" is being used to market lamps when the seller chooses to use that name in the product title. This is of course a dishonest marketing strategy but since the brand name "Cree" is often associated with the LED being used, some people assume that if the product has a Cree LED that it is a TOTAL "Cree" product ( when such is not always the case, although the emitter might actually be a Cree emitter ). I guess they figure they can use the "Cree" brand name as they wish if they are using the emitter. Likely the Cree people aren't going to raise a fuss or issue a disclaimer because they want to continue to sell their emitters and really don't want to mess with their buyers ( in this case, The Chinese ).
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Cree definitely would not be a major force in LED manufacturing if they insisted that their name never be used in connection with a product that used their emitters. In fact they employ people to do exactly the opposite.
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FWIW: All my Garmin, Cygolite, Samsung, Apple, etc. chargers are made in China, so I imagine it's the design and QC that's important rather than the geographic locale of manufacture.
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Agreed, the differentiation being "cheap Chinese." All those knock-offs or off-brands. But it happens with name brands too, like you said, design, so there is no guarantee your charger circuit board won't fritz and smoke either.
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07-06-14, 08:31 AM
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Yea US uses 220v, your stove if electric is 220v.. the Powder-coater in town has a 440v power line into his shop
to run that oven .. electric power required is a significant part of the cost of powder coating..
I have a couple small pieces in the queue, waiting till something big needs doing , to hang in the oven with it ..
my cost is way cheaper then..
to run that oven .. electric power required is a significant part of the cost of powder coating..
I have a couple small pieces in the queue, waiting till something big needs doing , to hang in the oven with it ..
my cost is way cheaper then..
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I always wondered about the wisdom of letting people use the name "CREE." Odds are, the emitters aren't even CREE since there are cheaper emitters that are good enough for a lot of lights
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There are some frighteningly dangerously designed chargers on the market. A couple of weeks ago a woman was killed by a bad USB charger in Australia.
Chargers are often afterthoughts, someone will design a decent light then just buy a commodity charger on the market somewhere.
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07-07-14, 12:29 PM
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Although this is about just the charger, and I do think it's a good idea to keep them unplugged when not in use, the charging of 18650 batteries should not be left unattended. If overcharged and with a failure of protection electronics these batteries can experience thermal runaway and explode after releasing highly flammable hydrogen gas.
The RC model folks use these things a lot more than we do, for the most part. Our main source of power is our legs and theirs is these batteries and accessories.
I took heed from the RC guys and bought a five buck charging bag. It's to put the battery pack in when it's charging to contain the explosion. When one occurs.
07-07-14, 04:17 PM
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The RC model folks use these things a lot more than we do, for the most part. Our main source of power is our legs and theirs is these batteries and accessories.
I took heed from the RC guys and bought a five buck charging bag. It's to put the battery pack in when it's charging to contain the explosion. When one occurs.
The RC model folks use these things a lot more than we do, for the most part. Our main source of power is our legs and theirs is these batteries and accessories.
I took heed from the RC guys and bought a five buck charging bag. It's to put the battery pack in when it's charging to contain the explosion. When one occurs.
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Warning to anyone with a mobile phone
Mrs Aldeguer was talking on her phone, which was plugged into a charger, when she died. The charger, which did not meet Australian safety regulations, had inadequate shielding causing 240 volts to 'arc' and pass from the charger through the phone into her body....
Police closed down a stall in Campsie in Sydney's southwest last week after a friend of Mrs Aldeguer told police that the faulty charger had been bought there. Police seized a large amount of stock, including phone chargers, power boards and travel adaptors, which were found not to meet Australian safety requirements. NSW Fair Trading Commisioner Rod Stowe said the rip-off, cheap chargers seized by the commission were low quality plastic that could melt and did not have insulation on pins or approval marks.
Police closed down a stall in Campsie in Sydney's southwest last week after a friend of Mrs Aldeguer told police that the faulty charger had been bought there. Police seized a large amount of stock, including phone chargers, power boards and travel adaptors, which were found not to meet Australian safety requirements. NSW Fair Trading Commisioner Rod Stowe said the rip-off, cheap chargers seized by the commission were low quality plastic that could melt and did not have insulation on pins or approval marks.
