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bobframe 07-08-14 05:36 PM

Getting the most from a Garmin Edge 605
 
Apparently, my mama did raise a fool...at least when it comes to understanding a Garmin Edge 605. I've had one for years and never felt like I was getting the most from it...particularly as a mapping product. In fact, I can't even say for sure whether I purchased upgraded maps for this or not....I have several DVD's (both of which are labeled City Navigator NT-North America 2010) but can't say for sure that these are for the Edge 605 (I also have an Edge 305 and a Garmin Zumo, a motorcycle GPS).

One fundamental question is this...does the unit come with a rudimentary set of maps? Should I upgrade these to a more robust set of maps? Mine seems to have some maps...but I'd sure hate to try to navigate using these, as they seem very crude and "detail-free". Maybe I have the upgraded maps and just never installed them? How would I know this??

I've mainly used the 605 as a cycling computer (speed, distance, grade, time of day, etc)...but am interested in getting the most out of it that I can.

Anyone have any useful tips on how to master the Edge 605?

Many thanks,

Bob

njkayaker 07-08-14 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bobframe (Post 16920668)
Anyone have any useful tips on how to master the Edge 605?

I have ridden on long rides with people who were using the 705 for navigation (the 605 is basically the same) and it seems that it works well. That is, even though these units are "old", they seem to be quite reasonable to use.

You need detailed maps for any sort of useful navigation. The "City Navigator" maps you have are an example of detailed maps. I'm not sure you would get them installed on your 605. You might need Garmin's "Map Installer" to do that.

For all of the units (except the 1000), the detailed maps are installed on a microSD card. The units come with a "base" map that isn't useful for navigation at all.

ridewithgps has some useful information about how to get course files installed on the 705/605.

You can also install the OSM maps on the device. "dcrainmaker" has a good tutorial about that and probably some other info as well.

How to download free maps to your Garmin Edge 705/800/810 | DC Rainmaker

Free worldwide Garmin maps from OpenStreetMap

I'd suggest googling too (you should find a fair amount of info that way). Look for info about the 705 too.

dorkypants 07-08-14 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by njkayaker (Post 16921223)
For all of the units (except the 1000), the detailed maps are installed on a microSD card.

I install detailed maps (previously Garmin's City Navigator maps, now OSM maps) on my Edge 705 without a microSD card in the unit. Of course I don't try to load the whole world's worth of maps into it. There's enough internal storage to accommodate, for example, (a) all OSM map tiles for California; or (b) all OSM map tiles for both France and Italy simultaneously.

krobinson103 07-09-14 12:27 AM

I have all of South Korea on my etrex. Got them off OSM and they work great. Just copy the ISO file to your memory card and tell the garmin to use that map. Its that simple.

njkayaker 07-09-14 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dorkypants (Post 16921601)
I install detailed maps (previously Garmin's City Navigator maps, now OSM maps) on my Edge 705 without a microSD card in the unit. Of course I don't try to load the whole world's worth of maps into it. There's enough internal storage to accommodate, for example, (a) all OSM map tiles for California; or (b) all OSM map tiles for both France and Italy simultaneously.

Yes, you can do that. But it seems it would be a fairly unusual thing to do.

I'm describing the standard/general case rather than talking about every possible option (which might be confusing).

An 8 GB microSD card is $6. It isn't really worth effort to avoid using one.

bobframe 07-09-14 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by njkayaker (Post 16921223)
You can also install the OSM maps on the device. "dcrainmaker" has a good tutorial about that and probably some other info as well.

How to download free maps to your Garmin Edge 705/800/810 | DC Rainmaker

Free worldwide Garmin maps from OpenStreetMap

I made an attempt at this. I am advised that I am #953 in the queue and the delay is 4 days. Is this a typical backlog?

njkayaker 07-09-14 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bobframe (Post 16923114)
I made an attempt at this. I am advised that I am #953 in the queue and the delay is 4 days. Is this a typical backlog?

It won't be as long as 4 days. You'll probably get it tomorrow.

bobframe 07-09-14 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by njkayaker (Post 16923225)
It won't be as long as 4 days. You'll probably get it tomorrow.

You are on a roll.

How about my City Navigator North America NT DVD...is this usable on the Edge 605?

Again, I may have bought these for a motorcycle Garmin, so I'm not sure what they are for. Is there a difference in the maps between different types of Garmin devices??

njkayaker 07-09-14 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bobframe (Post 16923432)
You are on a roll.

I've used that site many times.

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Originally Posted by bobframe (Post 16923432)
How about my City Navigator North America NT DVD...is this usable on the Edge 605?

Yes, they should work just fine (basically). As far as I understand, there's only one version of the City Navigatior (CN) maps (basically).

I haven't used the DVD versions. There might be some funkiness regarding copying the maps from the DVD's to the device. I believe you might need Garmin's "Mapinstall" program.

http://www8.garmin.com/support/downl...ls.jsp?id=3291

In a simple world, you should be able to copy the CN "img" map file to the "Garmin" folder on an microSD card (or the internal memory) This is how you install the OSM maps. The standard name of the map files is "gmapsupp.img".

Garmin is/was moving towards "locking" maps to a particular device (at least for maps purchased on microSD cards?). There might be "ways" around that (you might be able to google options). I'm not sure if the locking stuff is relevent to the DVD maps.

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Originally Posted by bobframe (Post 16923432)
Again, I may have bought these for a motorcycle Garmin, so I'm not sure what they are for. Is there a difference in the maps between different types of Garmin devices??

Some newer devices can use "unicode" versions of the CN maps but I believe that the maps you have will work on all the devices (which support maps) you currently own.

bobframe 07-11-14 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by njkayaker (Post 16923515)
In a simple world, you should be able to copy the CN "img" map file to the "Garmin" folder on an microSD card (or the internal memory) This is how you install the OSM maps. The standard name of the map files is "gmapsupp.img".

I believe that I have accomplished this, in addition to having installed the Garmin City Navigator North America maps. But when I turn on 605 and get to Settings/Maps I can only chose the City Nav maps and not the OSM maps. However, the OSM map file (gmapsupp.img) does show as having been copied to the microsd card in the 605.

The instructions you linked me to referred to "Part 3...Enabling the and using the maps"...he says: When you first turn on the Edge for the first time with the new maps, it’ll inventory the maps and then make them available to you. Depending on how big a mapset you created, this may take a few seconds – or a few minutes. Don’t worry, just let it complete.Once that’s done, the map should be ready to use. In the unlikely event your new mapset isn’t enabled, you can do so manually. It’s pretty quick and easy.

Not so easy. Any suggestions?


njkayaker 07-11-14 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bobframe (Post 16929504)
I believe that I have accomplished this, in addition to having installed the Garmin City Navigator North America maps. But when I turn on 605 and get to Settings/Maps I can only chose the City Nav maps and not the OSM maps. However, the OSM map file (gmapsupp.img) does show as having been copied to the microsd card in the 605.

Keep in mind that I don't have a 705/605 to try!

It looks like the 705/605 can only use maps in a file called "gmapsupp.img". (The 800 and later can deal with multiple map files with different names).

http://ridewithgps.com/help/garmin-edge-605-and-705

I'm not sure what name the CN map file has on your device. I'm assuming both maps are installed on the microSD card. If so, they would need to have different names (but only the one named "gmapsupp.img" will be used).






bobframe 07-11-14 03:34 PM

Enough tech support...I appreciate your help very much.

krobinson103 07-11-14 09:09 PM

Copy over the basemap. I had to do that as well. The older Garmins can't find multiple map files. Just rename the basemap something else in case you want it later.


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