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    I am bummed out and upset...plus what would you recommend (Garmin question)

    Today I had a nice, solo 83 miles ride. I felt strong, like I could have gone another 17 miles to make it an even solo century). When I got back to my car I put my bike on the rack, removed the water bottles and the bike computer (Garmin 510). I put the cheap water bottles inside the car, put the computer on top of the trunk, got distracted by an incoming phone call, got in the car, drove off and...as you may have guessed the Garmin remained on the trunk while I drove happily away.

    I am now out $300.00 plus all my ride data is gone.

    I am tempted to ride naked...I mean sans computer. For various reasons, mostly health reasons, I need a computer to track my rides and to monitor heart rate with an alarm feature. (I had 4 stents put in last December). So as tempting as riding bare may be, I need a computer.

    I like the 510 and maybe I will just replace it with another 510.

    But what about the 800 or even the 810? The 800 is on sale for a very reasonable price.

    Any suggestions? Recommendations? Comments?

    Thank you for reading.
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    If you still work, the company may have a medical plan that would pay for the garmin if the physician wants you to monitor your physical activity. Make sure you send him the activity results. That includes the heart rate data.

    There are different kinds of medical plans. Check with your human resources department. I would say that the Garmin is a heart monitoring device that's hooked up to your chest by a strap. Its for use during strenuous physical activity.

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    OK.... apparently you still have a phone. Why not get a Bluetooth heart rate monitor that connects to you phone and then use a cycling app.

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    The Edge 510 is nice as you know and the Edge 810 should have most of the bugs worked out of it by now.

    Other options are the Edge 500, the Cyclo 315, the Cyclo 505 and the Edge 1000 (avoid this one like it has the plague!)

    A cheaper and rock solid option might be the Edge 500. You can probably score an Edge 500 pretty cheap..
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    if you can get an 800 for less than a 510, I would definitely consider it
    Randonneuring -- it's touring for people that aren't smart enough to stop for the night.
    It's a wonderful sport when you can make up for a lack of ability with a lack of sleep

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garfield Cat View Post
    If you still work, the company may have a medical plan that would pay for the garmin if the physician wants you to monitor your physical activity. Make sure you send him the activity results. That includes the heart rate data.

    There are different kinds of medical plans. Check with your human resources department. I would say that the Garmin is a heart monitoring device that's hooked up to your chest by a strap. Its for use during strenuous physical activity.
    That sounds like a good idea...I will give it a try.
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    Garmin love a sob story. Give it a whirl and see what they can do for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by znomit View Post
    Garmin love a sob story. Give it a whirl and see what they can do for you.
    another great suggestion...I am good at sob stories.
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    Zoom zoom zoom zoom bonk znomit's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
    i am good at sob stories.
    htfu

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    Quote Originally Posted by znomit View Post
    htfu

    LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Cutter View Post
    OK.... apparently you still have a phone. Why not get a Bluetooth heart rate monitor that connects to you phone and then use a cycling app.
    I would say that the Garmin is bike specific. Admittedly the newer smart phones have the GPS chip inside. But for longer battery life and screen visibility that doesn't go blank unless touched, and no need to go "airplane mode".

    Getting a Garmin would be a "two-fer". Go for the two-fer, if you can.

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    I did almost the exact same thing, completely destroying my 510. Garmin did a warranty replacement for me for $100. If you want to replace your 510, contact Garmin first as they may give you a deal on replacing it.

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    @OP....Sometimes bad stuff just happens. I've had the same thing happen before but with less expensive objects. Since I also drive for a living I face the same danger at work. The lesson I learned years ago is, "Never ( and I mean never ), place an object on top of a car ( even for a moment ) while preparing to leave". Double the priority if it's dark. If you have to open a door and put whatever it is on the seat, DO IT! Look at it as a "golden rule" of bicycling.

    When I lose or misplace a bike related item I have a specific ritual I go through. I utter or yell the words, "M/F !, F !, SOBMF!. I'll do that for a couple of minutes while kicking/ fist pumping into the air. If I get really worked up I'll take a Xanax. I get the frustration out of my system and move on.

    Going forward, since the 510 worked for you I'd look to get a replacement ASAP. Refurbished, e-bay, Garmin Connect ...whatever get it back as soon as possible. If you keep riding without the item it will just piss you off every time you get on or off your bike. Anyway, what also helps in situations like this is to go with the "karmic UPGRADE" point of view. Consider the 800 or 810 if you think having maps might add to your ride. If the upgrade works out to be a better solution, you smile; have a beer and caulk the whole thing up to karma...ie...you were meant to upgrade, so be it. ( *Luke...use the force Luke. Chose the 810 *)

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    Garmin Edge 510, 810 or 1000 would have automatically uploaded your ride data over bluetooth using your phone.

    So....next time you leave your computer on the top of your car at least you'll have your ride data

    Also, next time set your startup text to increase the likelyhood of getting it back: http://www.scarletfire.co.uk/persona...rmin-edge-800/

    EDIT: Derp, you had the 510....setup auto upload next time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01 CAt Man Do View Post
    @OP....Sometimes bad stuff just happens. I've had the same thing happen before but with less expensive objects...
    I had to quote myself here because well, it seems fitting as you will soon see. Odd how the situations in life turn on you at times. Must be part of that karma that kicks in when you start telling other people how to do stuff. I call this the, "reversal of fortune/ what goes around comes around karma". Tonight at the finish of a rather nice ride I started off by first removing my smart phone from the holder that I use for navigation when on my bike. While trying to get it out I had to struggle a bit to remove it from the holder. While I'm doing that my bike starts to teeter and threatens to fall into my car. In an effort to prevent it from hitting the ground or scratching my car I reached out with one hand to stop the fall. No problem but I now needed two hands to bring the bike out of the way of the car. Since the phone was in my other hand I must of sat it on the back of the car without thinking. ( sound familiar? )

    Now here's where things get strange; I stabilize the bike and since the placing of the phone on the roof was a knee-jerk reaction I forget about it for the moment. I open the lift gate of my wagon and carefully start putting away all of my bike related stuff, making sure that the stuff I need like wallet, phone and other misc. stuff is in front. ( At this point I'm assuming I put the phone on the front seat which was my intention when first removing it ).

    With everything stowed away I get into the wagon only to notice that my phone is not on the front seat. I look in my goodie bag, not there. Hmmm...I'm thinking; I must of laid it down inside the back of the wagon. I get out and prepare to remove my bike from the back of the wagon so I can access the trunk area when suddenly I look up and see my phone ....no, not sitting on the roof but SOMEHOW sticking ( straight up ) and out of the crack between the rear hatch and the roof of the wagon! I reach up to grab it only to find that it is stuck as though it were in a vise.

    At this point I start to go into panic mode. To free it I need to open the back lift gate. To do that I have to remove the bike first. With the bike off the rack I open the lift gate and pull the phone out. Immediately I see that things are not good. I try the power button....nothing. I see small cracks in the screen, I start to go into "OH M-F'er" mode but I quickly stop. The phone is dead. Nothing I can do now is going to fix it. Quickly I shifted into "Karmic Upgrade" mentality mode to defuse the conniption fit I was about to have. I calmly got back into the car. No more cussing, no beating my head on the steering wheel. Crap happens. Tomorrow I start planning on what replacement phone to buy. Might be a Galaxy S5 but whatever I get it has to have BTLE or Ant+ capability.

    This week is going to be a b***h. I use the navigation apps on my phone all the time when I work. Not to mention the weather apps and phone. I'm slapping myself now because I gave my old Garmin Nuvi to my sister just last week so she could have a GPS when starting her new job. Sheeesh, sometimes things just go wrong. Cluster F's, sometimes you just got to hate um'. Oh, almost forgot to mention, I was already on my meds before the phone incident so that probably helped keep me from going insane.

    I'm still trying to figure out just "How" the phone managed to slide down into that crack...talk about the perfect storm.

    ( *Please note: I do not make a boat-load of money so yes, this hurts. Money is tight these days. Regardless, once you are used to having something as useful as a smart phone it really is HARD TO DO WITHOUT ONE!. On the up-side, at least my credit card reward points will go up a bit. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01 CAt Man Do View Post
    but whatever I get it has to have BTLE or Ant+ capability.
    Make sure you check app compatibility first - I've heard that there are phones with ANT+ but that there aren't as many apps that support ANT+ on the phone. Might be worth just getting the best phone you can find with same new BTLE sensors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egranlund View Post
    Make sure you check app compatibility first - I've heard that there are phones with ANT+ but that there aren't as many apps that support ANT+ on the phone. Might be worth just getting the best phone you can find with same new BTLE sensors.
    Well, it turns out I just got a replacement of the same phone I had. I figured if I started getting picky that I'd probably end up spending more than I can afford. Besides if I start shopping for "Newer" phones I really want to get out to the stores and see what they look like with my own eyes. That would take some time and right now I really need my phone and phone apps to get back into the swing of things. Hopefully no damage was done to my SIM card and I'll just be able to pop it into the new phone when I get it. I'll think about upgrading to a better phone when my contract runs out and I have more time to think things over.

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    Just for a word of encouragement, I did something similar after a century event last October where I left a pair of leg warmers, a nylon jacket, replete with cellphone in the pocket on top of my SUV...and like you, drove off not realizing they were still on top of my roof. Here's the good news...it is something you will NEVER ever do again...LOL. [I double and triple and even quadruple check outside my car now]. Still didn't keep me from leaving behind my cycling shoes at the house this last March headed out to another event. sigh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Harry View Post
    Just for a word of encouragement, I did something similar after a century event last October where I left a pair of leg warmers, a nylon jacket, replete with cellphone in the pocket on top of my SUV...and like you, drove off not realizing they were still on top of my roof. Here's the good news...it is something you will NEVER ever do again...LOL. [I double and triple and even quadruple check outside my car now]. Still didn't keep me from leaving behind my cycling shoes at the house this last March headed out to another event. sigh...
    Wishful thinking. The more accurate statement would be, "It is something you will try your best to never have happen again". ~~~ We're all human and being human we make mistakes, even when we try our best not too. I've locked myself out of my own home at least three times in twenty years. After the first time I made a solemn vow to never have it happen again but try as I did it still happened. I've told myself over and over I would never leave anything on top of a vehicle again ( many times ) but somehow it still happens. I guess I can live with being human but sometimes "being human" is not an easy thing to live with.
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