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    Getting a bike from Copenhagen to Stockholm...

    ...without riding it.

    Anyone crack the Swedish train system, yet?

    I would like to get me and my bike from Copenhagen to Stockholm (and eventually Turku, Finland) at the end of May. No Swedish trains appear to take bikes (W.T.F.?) on that route.

    Anyone figure out a good way to do this?

    Tack.

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    I find that odd as I have seen bikes come off the main stations in Copenhagen from foreign destinations. (Wife is Danish) The rules throughout Scandinavia are pretty consistent and both country's have a strong bike culture. My gut tells me it is no problem. The internet information for trains is pretty poor. Call them and ask
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    Swedish rail (SJ.se - Tågresor - ett Bra Miljöval - Start) say you cannot take bikes. You CAN box it and send it as cargo.

    A few years back I remember seeing a select few trains between Stockholm and Southern Sverige that were specifically designated for bike transport, but I couldn't find that information now. Maybe they stopped that service. Back then we did see a couple of passengers taking their chances and simply rolling the bike in the train. It was a short leg (Nynäshamn - Stockholm) and apparently it worked OK for them. I suggest you contact SJ directly (and post their reply here, please ).

    I'm assuming you'll take a ferry from Stockholm to Turku. You will be expected to ride your bike into the car deck of the ferry, and again ride it out in Turku. It'll stay on the closed car deck for the duration of the journey, and you will not have access to the bike (or any luggage left there) during that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juha View Post
    Swedish rail (SJ.se - Tågresor - ett Bra Miljöval - Start) say you cannot take bikes. You CAN box it and send it as cargo.

    A few years back I remember seeing a select few trains between Stockholm and Southern Sverige that were specifically designated for bike transport, but I couldn't find that information now. Maybe they stopped that service. Back then we did see a couple of passengers taking their chances and simply rolling the bike in the train. It was a short leg (Nynäshamn - Stockholm) and apparently it worked OK for them. I suggest you contact SJ directly (and post their reply here, please ).

    I'm assuming you'll take a ferry from Stockholm to Turku. You will be expected to ride your bike into the car deck of the ferry, and again ride it out in Turku. It'll stay on the closed car deck for the duration of the journey, and you will not have access to the bike (or any luggage left there) during that time.

    --J
    SJ is clear that they don't take bikes. Snâlltåget used to take bikes, but no longer do. From kundeservice:

    "It is true, no train in Sweden that travels between Malmö and Stockholm can at the moment take bicycles.
    Only Öresundståg have that ability."

    Öresundstågt can get me to Karlskrona or Karlshamn, from which I can get to Lithuania or Poland, but I'll need to book those in advance, so unless I can be sure I can take a bike to Stockholm, it's too risky to plan on going northern route through Finland. I'll actually be in Sweden (Lund) for a couple of weeks before I head east, so I'll check in with SJ directly, but I'm pessimistic.

    Boxing is an option. SJ says you can take whatever you can carry as luggage; between a box and a set of panniers, I might have to be loose with the definition of "carry".

    Juha: How's the Baltic Route from Turku to Helsinki? Well marked? If I head that way, I plan on doing it in two days. Any recommendations for must-sees along the way?

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    The leg from Turku to Helsinki is fairly dull IMO, considering you plan to take the ferry past one of our best cycling routes, namely the Åland / Turku archipelago trail. Not much mileage in the archipelago to be covered (the islands are small for the most part, with a lot of ferry hopping in between), but scenery is great and there's not much traffic. Personally I'd rather spend the two days in the archipelago, then catch a train from Turku to Helsinki. You will need to book the train tickets ahead, trains have limited number of bike racks.

    If you insist on riding the Turku-Helsinki leg, good news is, there's a relatively new highway (road number 1 or E18). It's off limits for bikes, but that's where most of the traffic will be, especially the heavy equipment. The old road (number 110) is a bit more winding and there are quite a lot of nice smaller byroads to choose from. In my opinion, all the nice sights are a bit south from the direct route. The historical King's Road mail route covers much of the sights and I think is still doable in two days.

    I can recommend the Outdoor GT Maps from Karttakeskus web shop. The Outdoor GT for Southern Finland will cover all the options mentioned above. There used to be a dedicated cycling map of the Finnish part of the King's Road, and also of the Åland / Turku archipelago area. Not sure if those are available separately anymore, as both are included in the current Outdoor GT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juha View Post
    The leg from Turku to Helsinki is fairly dull IMO, considering you plan to take the ferry past one of our best cycling routes, namely the Åland / Turku archipelago trail. Not much mileage in the archipelago to be covered (the islands are small for the most part, with a lot of ferry hopping in between), but scenery is great and there's not much traffic. Personally I'd rather spend the two days in the archipelago, then catch a train from Turku to Helsinki. You will need to book the train tickets ahead, trains have limited number of bike racks.

    If you insist on riding the Turku-Helsinki leg, good news is, there's a relatively new highway (road number 1 or E18). It's off limits for bikes, but that's where most of the traffic will be, especially the heavy equipment. The old road (number 110) is a bit more winding and there are quite a lot of nice smaller byroads to choose from. In my opinion, all the nice sights are a bit south from the direct route. The historical King's Road mail route covers much of the sights and I think is still doable in two days.

    I can recommend the Outdoor GT Maps from Karttakeskus web shop. The Outdoor GT for Southern Finland will cover all the options mentioned above. There used to be a dedicated cycling map of the Finnish part of the King's Road, and also of the Åland / Turku archipelago area. Not sure if those are available separately anymore, as both are included in the current Outdoor GT.

    --J
    Thanks for the advice. Maybe I'll skip Finland this year and do Åland next time I head to Stockholm. The family might enjoy that.

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