When is it time for a 3 Wheeler . . .?
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Guess it depends on the style of trike.
The trikes that appear to be fun, were traveling over 20+ mph into a 15mph head wind. The low profile with a 700c rear wheel combined to make a very fast trike. I couldn't keep up. This was on an organized metric century. I talked with both riders for awhile, then they said time to move and both were gone. The 2 riders easily pulled away. Guessing one rider was 30+ and the other 60+, likely father and son. I was thinking right then, that I was riding the wrong style of bike.
So the trikes that intrigue me are fast, now I see them regularly on organized and group rides. A LBS sells a couple models, haven't tried one yet, but very tempting.
The trikes that appear to be fun, were traveling over 20+ mph into a 15mph head wind. The low profile with a 700c rear wheel combined to make a very fast trike. I couldn't keep up. This was on an organized metric century. I talked with both riders for awhile, then they said time to move and both were gone. The 2 riders easily pulled away. Guessing one rider was 30+ and the other 60+, likely father and son. I was thinking right then, that I was riding the wrong style of bike.
So the trikes that intrigue me are fast, now I see them regularly on organized and group rides. A LBS sells a couple models, haven't tried one yet, but very tempting.
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Where in Oregon, GFish? (Maybe I know them.)
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It's a bit of a mystery to me why (non-recumbent) trikes aren't more popular. Schwinn used to make a couple of nice (if heavy) models aimed at retired crowd. Huge basket to carry groceries or toy poodle. I like to ride in snow/ice but it's always a challenge even with fat knobby tires. Last winter I rode a MTB over snowy/icy roads, worked fine for majority of ride but in last 200 meters the front wheel slipped & caused a minor spill. A trike would be a breeze in such conditions. Some bike fanatics own 5-10 bikes but strangely don't include a trike.
Locally I see a lot of oldsters on bike/trike recumbents, <1% seem to be doing anything other than slow local fitness rides. Their cycles seem to have even less rack/pannier capacity than avg commuting bike.
UK was a hotbed of performance trikes, Bob Jackson made nice trikes. I suppose that with adequate budget a US buyer could get a sweet road/touring-type trike built by custom builder.
Locally I see a lot of oldsters on bike/trike recumbents, <1% seem to be doing anything other than slow local fitness rides. Their cycles seem to have even less rack/pannier capacity than avg commuting bike.
UK was a hotbed of performance trikes, Bob Jackson made nice trikes. I suppose that with adequate budget a US buyer could get a sweet road/touring-type trike built by custom builder.
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The unpopularity of upright trikes is no mystery. Like StephenH said earlier in the thread, they are less stable than a two-wheeler unless you restrict your speed to a few mph. Try a fast downhill on one. If it's perfectly straight, that might work out. If it contains anything resembling a bend, have an ambulance standing by. Even the racing versions have to corner in slow motion.
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Remembering the days of the 3-wheel ATVs. Tricky when cornering.
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Don't gotta remember back when; I see Harley trikes out on the road all the time right now. The riders hardly look like they're scanning ahead for an ambulance - they look like they're having fun. Harley ended 90+ years of sidecar production a few years ago because trikes, which they've built since 1932, were so much more in demand.
But certainly, if one had particular concerns, an adult upright pedal trike could be (and in fact on occasion has been) built with a wide stance, longish wheelbase and low center of gravity and be quite stable, like a Can Am Spyder.
But certainly, if one had particular concerns, an adult upright pedal trike could be (and in fact on occasion has been) built with a wide stance, longish wheelbase and low center of gravity and be quite stable, like a Can Am Spyder.
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Sidecars. I love watching them race.
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Sidecar? Here ya go.
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When I broke my wrist last year, I had a flash that perhaps I "should" be worried about stability so while recovering, I browsed for info about tadpole trikes. This led to browsing ads, which in turn lead to a purchase of a used ICE Sprint. My stability concern turned out to be more of a "confidence" thing, from which I am fully recovered. Nevertheless, I am thrilled with the trike. It's a blast to ride, especially when you lift the inside front wheel and it seems to impress pre and early teen kids (and how hard is it for an old guy to do that?). It's a bit slower than my other bikes, but still respectable. I rode the whole 44 miles of the Withlacoochee Trail in Florida earlier this year at a 14+ average speed.
Also, try tackling the South Pole on a bike. World's first cycle to the South Pole achieved
Also, try tackling the South Pole on a bike. World's first cycle to the South Pole achieved
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It's a bit of a mystery to me why (non-recumbent) trikes aren't more popular. Schwinn used to make a couple of nice (if heavy) models aimed at retired crowd. Huge basket to carry groceries or toy poodle. I like to ride in snow/ice but it's always a challenge even with fat knobby tires. Last winter I rode a MTB over snowy/icy roads, worked fine for majority of ride but in last 200 meters the front wheel slipped & caused a minor spill. A trike would be a breeze in such conditions. Some bike fanatics own 5-10 bikes but strangely don't include a trike.
Locally I see a lot of oldsters on bike/trike recumbents, <1% seem to be doing anything other than slow local fitness rides. Their cycles seem to have even less rack/pannier capacity than avg commuting bike.
UK was a hotbed of performance trikes, Bob Jackson made nice trikes. I suppose that with adequate budget a US buyer could get a sweet road/touring-type trike built by custom builder.
Locally I see a lot of oldsters on bike/trike recumbents, <1% seem to be doing anything other than slow local fitness rides. Their cycles seem to have even less rack/pannier capacity than avg commuting bike.
UK was a hotbed of performance trikes, Bob Jackson made nice trikes. I suppose that with adequate budget a US buyer could get a sweet road/touring-type trike built by custom builder.
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The difference is in weight distribution. A Harley has a lot of weight down low - the engine and tranny. Not so with an old-style upright delta trike. Plus there's the efficiency issue. An old-style delta only drives one wheel, which is off to the side. That can be rectified with a differential, at the expense of weight, complexity, and cost. A Harley has power to burn, a cyclist does not.
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It is no mystery to me as to why I see so few adult (non recumbent) trikes ridden in my area even though the weather is conducive to year around riding. The cost isn't prohibitive. I can go on Amazon and buy one for $300 or less and have it shipped to my door for free. It is all about the weight and inefficiency of the trike. $300 gets you a 70 pound one-speed trike. Even a slight hill is a challenge for a rider with a trike that heavy. No gears means you have to pedal really hard up a hill and really spin going down the other side if you want to go any distance in a reasonable amount of time. You have to factor in that a fair number of adults are overweight (69%)* or even obese (35%)* which makes it even harder to ride such a trike. Then, there is the general laziness factor for a lot of folks. Ride a bike? Why should I when I have a car?
I've seen a fair number of recumbent trike riders recently. Far more than the few granny trike riders. We even have a trike dealer in town for the first time in years though it isn't a brand I would want to ride.
* obesity statistics from Center for Disease Control and Prevention 2011-2012 (most recent data)
I've seen a fair number of recumbent trike riders recently. Far more than the few granny trike riders. We even have a trike dealer in town for the first time in years though it isn't a brand I would want to ride.
* obesity statistics from Center for Disease Control and Prevention 2011-2012 (most recent data)
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You say trikes are slow; I point out one that's an absolute record holder. I point to examples of modern trikes, you respond with perceived faults of trikes of the 1950s. You are resistant. That's cool; we're just a bunch of folks yakking about cycles.
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It is no mystery to me as to why I see so few adult (non recumbent) trikes ridden in my area even though the weather is conducive to year around riding. The cost isn't prohibitive. I can go on Amazon and buy one for $300 or less and have it shipped to my door for free. It is all about the weight and inefficiency of the trike. $300 gets you...
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No such thing as a new $300 recumbent trike (or bike for that matter)
The $300 was for a traditional (granny) trike, not a recumbent trike. It gets you a one-speed Schwinn with the basket and all that stuff mentioned by one of the people who replied to this thread. Here's a price list for a large recumbent dealer in the east: https://www.bicycleman.com/files/Bicy...Price-List.pdf As you can see, even Sunseeker doesn't have anything much below 1K and while their trikes are made with quality components (brands you would at least recognize) they are on the heavy side. That's why you don't see many young recumbent trike riders because they simply don't have the kind of disposable income to justify plopping down $2K or more for a trike when that money will buy you a pretty nice (much lighter) road bike. Of course you don't get the trike grin and comfort with the road bike.
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Put a full body on a trike and it can be 'blazing-' fast. This is me, modeling a sort-of-fast one.
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It is no mystery to me as to why I see so few adult (non recumbent) trikes ridden in my area even though the weather is conducive to year around riding. The cost isn't prohibitive. I can go on Amazon and buy one for $300 or less and have it shipped to my door for free. It is all about the weight and inefficiency of the trike. $300 gets you a 70 pound one-speed trike. Even a slight hill is a challenge for a rider with a trike that heavy. No gears means you have to pedal really hard up a hill and really spin going down the other side if you want to go any distance in a reasonable amount of time. You have to factor in that a fair number of adults are overweight (69%)* or even obese (35%)* which makes it even harder to ride such a trike. Then, there is the general laziness factor for a lot of folks. Ride a bike? Why should I when I have a car?
I've seen a fair number of recumbent trike riders recently. Far more than the few granny trike riders. We even have a trike dealer in town for the first time in years though it isn't a brand I would want to ride.
* obesity statistics from Center for Disease Control and Prevention 2011-2012 (most recent data)
I've seen a fair number of recumbent trike riders recently. Far more than the few granny trike riders. We even have a trike dealer in town for the first time in years though it isn't a brand I would want to ride.
* obesity statistics from Center for Disease Control and Prevention 2011-2012 (most recent data)
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There's a nearby LBS that specializes in recumbents which might explain local popularity. I'm sure if your group ride was long enough some of the other 64 riders might envy the comfy cockpit. Even top pros can suffer from saddle pain after all.
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The late, great Sheldon Brown was stricken with late-in-life MS. It really did a number on his sense of balance. So... his solution was to switch to a
Greenspeed, recumbent trike. Folks, I saw the man ride this, and he was able to move right along, with respectable power. Alas, the MS also
did a number on his energy level, so when he got tired, he would simply stop and find a good spot to watch the Kayak folks on the Charles river.
As he put it, he already had a built in easy chair. These greenspeeds are not in-expensive though. Good news: They do seem to be well-made.
So, when it time for a three wheeler? Unknown, but your mortality just dictate that you get one some day.
Greenspeed, recumbent trike. Folks, I saw the man ride this, and he was able to move right along, with respectable power. Alas, the MS also
did a number on his energy level, so when he got tired, he would simply stop and find a good spot to watch the Kayak folks on the Charles river.
As he put it, he already had a built in easy chair. These greenspeeds are not in-expensive though. Good news: They do seem to be well-made.
So, when it time for a three wheeler? Unknown, but your mortality just dictate that you get one some day.
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I have been looking at a cat trike for some time and pretty well realize that sooner or later I will have to give up cycling or move to a trike. A good friend of mine rode with our group well into his mid 80s. By switching to a cat trike.
It was more than normal balance he told me once. It was those days when you were pushing up a hill and can just turn your cranks over you feel like you are going to fall before you can clip out. He said with the Trike he could simply stop and rest till he could go again.
It was more than normal balance he told me once. It was those days when you were pushing up a hill and can just turn your cranks over you feel like you are going to fall before you can clip out. He said with the Trike he could simply stop and rest till he could go again.
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Here's some videos I made several years ago, just out having fun when nobody else could ride:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA_I6jH7DY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57P-OhgxulM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgbIG1FUB2o
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A trike works great in snow or ice in the right conditions. With a bicycle, you're dependent upon friction with the ground to keep you upright- get on something slick and you're in trouble. With a trike, if you go around a corner too fast, it's friction that'll turn you over- lose friction, and you may slide into stuff, but you can't turn over as easily, so it's great. With my Worksman trike, on icy crusty snow, it's fine. In loose snow, up to about 2", it's fine, over that and you can't go. You're pushing three wide tires through the snow, but only have traction on one, so it doesn't take much to stop it. I think on a lot of the adult upright trikes, only one rear wheel is driven, so you'd have the same problem.
Here's some videos I made several years ago, just out having fun when nobody else could ride:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA_I6jH7DY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57P-OhgxulM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgbIG1FUB2o
Here's some videos I made several years ago, just out having fun when nobody else could ride:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA_I6jH7DY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57P-OhgxulM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgbIG1FUB2o