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Old 11-07-15, 07:06 AM
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Golfer's Elbow??

I guess it is the distant cousin of Tennis Elbow. Has anyone had it? How did you treat it? My chiropractor suggested an elbow brace but would like to hear from other. Thanks!
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I've had it twice.
Get to a physical therapist ASAP.
The sooner you start PT, the easier it is to recover from it.
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had it once... used the tennis elbow strap thing and that pad just goes on the other side on the arm instead.. worked for me. Laid off golf for 1 week is all.. was playing 3x week back then.
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I used to get it quite badly when I played team badminton and squash. I tried all the recommended remedies, except painkillers, including elbow braces and cortisone injections but none of them ever really worked. The only thing that did it for me was rest and time. I never get it now since I stopped playing these sports.
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I fell on my butt on the ice last winter, breaking the fall with both arms. It was fine til I went to an indoor range, then that sore elbow flared up. Tried a few rounds in April, but painful. Wore a brace. Heating pad at night. Took four weeks off from golf, and it went away.

Now I got a messed up shoulder, when you fall off a ladder while painting instead of safely playing golf or riding a bike like you should when it hits 65F during a Chicago November. Two days rest, and it's much better. I hope to hit the links after two more days.
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That's a tendon overuse injury, an RSI. IME these injuries can fairly quickly be resolved by strength training. Rest is what is usually recommended, however the RSI comes right back when the sport is resumed, duh. Here's a quick look at interventions:
https://www.massgeneral.org/ortho/ser...bilitation.pdf

There are lots more on the web. If it were me, besides what's shown in the above, I'd undertake a more general upperbody workout using only dumbbells. Note that the exercises illustrated are full range-of-motion exercises. That's important. So:
Cable curls
Concentration dumbbell curls
Cable triceps extensions
Overhead dumbbell triceps extensions
Dumbbell forward raises to full overhead
Dumbbell lateral raises to full overhead
Dumbbell bent-over rear raises
Dumbbell straight arm pullovers
Dumbbell seated presses, no back support

For illustrations of these and other exercises, see Exercise & Muscle Directory.

Say 3 sets of 12, starting with light weights which feel easy and gradually increasing the weight over a period of 3-4 weeks until you are failing the last set of each exercise.

You only get the one body.
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Originally Posted by Doc_Wui
I fell on my butt on the ice last winter, breaking the fall with both arms. It was fine til I went to an indoor range, then that sore elbow flared up. Tried a few rounds in April, but painful. Wore a brace. Heating pad at night. Took four weeks off from golf, and it went away.

Now I got a messed up shoulder, when you fall off a ladder while painting instead of safely playing golf or riding a bike like you should when it hits 65F during a Chicago November. Two days rest, and it's much better. I hope to hit the links after two more days.
For the messed up shoulder, see:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003ICWIUM/...8080_TE_M1T1DP
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Here is the deal with golfers elbow and brace. You want to use if the aggravating activity was cause by strain in mobility by overextending the joint at the wrist. When to use the Tennis Elbow Brace | Repetitive Strain Injury
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Usually there is something in the technique that needs to be tweaked. I talk about it in the program repetitivestraininjury.us/elbowmenderpro/ Usually it's the interscapular muscles that are under firing and the neck and traps that over-fire causing tension down the arm. Tension there plus excess grip strength is a tendonitis inducer.
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The problem with weights is it's all about timing. If you do it too early in an injury, it will irritate. That's the last thing you do. Conditioning the body prevents injury by pumping blood to regernate tissue faster!
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If you are having problems and want help I can tell you why you have, what exactly is causing and what you can do.... The why could be that you gripping too hard, and not using your back muscles, while overusing other muscles. my system is at repetitivestraininjury.us/elbowmenderpro/ Anything I can help, please lemme know
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I used an elbow brace and stretches to relieve the pain, but what really cured it was resting it following rotator cuff surgery on the same side.
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Theraband Flexbar

I've had golfers elbow for years in my left arm to the point of not being able to use my arm for much of anything. Of course, that didn't stop me from golfing. It's just as addictive as biking.

Fixed it this summer with the Theraband Flexbar. Super easy to do 3 sets of 10-30 reps. Here is a video that gives a nice explanation of what causes it and why the Flexbar fixes it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we4UoiKG3Co. (I haven't tried the roller gadget in the first few seconds of the video)

Stretching is counter productive for most golfers elbow because it is in essence an over stretching injury due to the centrifugal force placed on your arm by the golf swing. Stretching just aggravates it. The Flexbar works the muscle/tendons in the opposite direction from the stretch.

Do some online research on it. There are lots of testimonials and youtube videos. Being a medium strength male, I bought the green one on ebay for $18.00. Worth every penny.

And here's the kicker -- My golf game has improved tremendously now that I don't have a sore arm. Just amazing.

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I've had it. The first time I just took a few weeks off of golf and it went away. The last time I googled "physical therapy exercises for golfer's elbow" and found this site: Summit Medical Group - Golfer's Elbow Exercises. The exercises helped. But I don't golf every week either.
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I would recommend seeing a Doc as soon as you can. I have battled lateral epicondylytits (other side of the elbow but very similar) since April and ended up with surgery in September and have just been cleared to ride the bike again. If you can get ahead of this thing now before it gets worse, by all means do it!!!!!!

The issue now I am experiencing some discomfort on the bike and am wondering if it is the geometry of the bike and if I should look at a more relaxed fit.

Good luck! Sucks getting old!
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Originally Posted by Tandem Tom
I guess it is the distant cousin of Tennis Elbow. Has anyone had it? How did you treat it? My chiropractor suggested an elbow brace but would like to hear from other. Thanks!
Is it due to cycling, golf or something else?
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Originally Posted by Hermes
Is it due to cycling, golf or something else?
It is an overuse injury. May be golf or tennis inspired may not. Mine was "tennis elbow" but I have not swung a tennis racket since I was 10 or so.
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Originally Posted by Hermes
Is it due to cycling, golf or something else?
The first time I got medial epicondylitis, (golfer's elbow), it was from doing work that involved gripping an object with both hands in front of my chest and pulling it apart with a lot of force, repeatedly. i.e. my forearms were horizontal, and both elbows were moving out to the sides.

The second time I got it, it was from doing too many pullups without taking enough recovery time between workouts.
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I too have suffered from "golfer's elbow" over the last few years. For me, I believe, cause was two-fold: 1) poor swing mechanics, getting to flat and slapping at the ball; 2) too many pull-ups without sufficient rest. I have had PT, worked on swing mechanics, and use Thera-Band. All helped but nothing has really gotten rid of it. I notice discomfort most on long drives (car not golf). Fortunately, no issues when cycling.
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Originally Posted by Paul W.
I've had golfers elbow for years in my left arm to the point of not being able to use my arm for much of anything. Of course, that didn't stop me from golfing. It's just as addictive as biking.

Fixed it this summer with the Theraband Flexbar. Super easy to do 3 sets of 10-30 reps. Here is a video that gives a nice explanation of what causes it and why the Flexbar fixes it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we4UoiKG3Co. (I haven't tried the roller gadget in the first few seconds of the video)

Stretching is counter productive for most golfers elbow because it is in essence an over stretching injury due to the centrifugal force placed on your arm by the golf swing. Stretching just aggravates it. The Flexbar works the muscle/tendons in the opposite direction from the stretch.

Do some online research on it. There are lots of testimonials and youtube videos. Being a medium strength male, I bought the green one on ebay for $18.00. Worth every penny.

And here's the kicker -- My golf game has improved tremendously now that I don't have a sore arm. Just amazing.
That makes sense. Exercise will fix almost anything, it just has to be the right sort. Years ago I got severe tendinitis in my forearms from too much computer programming. I saw a specialist who was all over it . . . He said he could certainly get me on disability, just fill out these forms! Nothing about how to fix it.

It happened that my gym had a device which fixed me right up. It was like a broomstick mounted horizontally at shoulder height on bearings. Attached to it was a string which went down to a weight. One simply wound the weight up and down, much like the Flexbar gizmo is used. All the pain went away in 2 weeks and never came back. My forearms were simply too weak. The usual response is to rest it. That's exactly the wrong response. Strength heals, weakness damages.
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