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12-28-16, 12:04 PM
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I hadn't heard of Blackspire before. I'll look for them.
12-28-16, 01:14 PM
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70 years old and still riding on Shimano M530 MTB pedals on my road bike. Have a new road bike on order and will put the same pedals on it.
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Blackspire are made in Canada and are noted for performance aftermarket MTN bike components.
The Xpedo C260 look great and though BMX, they look great for a road bile.
The Xpedo C260 look great and though BMX, they look great for a road bile.
12-28-16, 03:20 PM
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Blackspire are well-known for their high-quality chainrings, too. Good to see that they are still made in Canada.
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Both my pedal boxes are checked with magic marker in the Canada box.
I bought them both from Chain Reaction, so they made two trips across the Atlantic.
12-29-16, 06:33 AM
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"Blackspire" sounds like the name of an English manor house; sort of like a place the Addams family would inhabit.
12-29-16, 06:53 AM
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The Blackspire pedals also come with short-height, thick "soft" traction pins, and give you an option to buy taller replacement pins
https://www.blackspire.com/wp-conten...JUSTMENT-A.pdf
blackspire pedals | Chain Reaction Cycles
I don't bleed on the Blackspire pedals when I walk my bike, and have all the traction I need for both uphill and downhill.
They haven't put any effort into the style of these pedals. All the effort went into the function.
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Two more complaints about the VP-001.
The set-screw spikes really chew up your shins when they get the chance.
Also, the "strike extension" on the outside of the pedals sharpens into a knife edge over a couple of strikes and will carve the fool out of your calf when it gets the chance.
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The Atlas pedals have the tall thin spikes like you'd expect for their intent - downhill racing.
Though all the edges of these pedals are smooth as a baby's bottom.
I have permanent scars in my shin from these spikes - on a municipal greenway one summer day, kids were hiding behind the pylons under a highway bridge and playing chicken by jumping "across" the path in front of bikes.
From 20 mph, I stopped my bike by turning it sideways, and the pedal spikes on my shin stopped me.
https://www.blackspire.com/wp-conten...JUSTMENT-A.pdf
blackspire pedals | Chain Reaction Cycles
I don't bleed on the Blackspire pedals when I walk my bike, and have all the traction I need for both uphill and downhill.
They haven't put any effort into the style of these pedals. All the effort went into the function.
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Two more complaints about the VP-001.
The set-screw spikes really chew up your shins when they get the chance.
Also, the "strike extension" on the outside of the pedals sharpens into a knife edge over a couple of strikes and will carve the fool out of your calf when it gets the chance.
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The Atlas pedals have the tall thin spikes like you'd expect for their intent - downhill racing.
Though all the edges of these pedals are smooth as a baby's bottom.
I have permanent scars in my shin from these spikes - on a municipal greenway one summer day, kids were hiding behind the pylons under a highway bridge and playing chicken by jumping "across" the path in front of bikes.
From 20 mph, I stopped my bike by turning it sideways, and the pedal spikes on my shin stopped me.
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01-02-17, 08:51 PM
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I never went clipless (clip-in) even into the 90's I still wore cleated leathers with toe clips and straps. Eventually went to a touring shoe, which I didn't really like.
About 10 years ago I picked up some Specialized Sonomas, without the cleat, and they were nice, but the best shoe/pedal combination I have used are Specialized Elite Touring, without the cleat, that I slide into my old Dura Ace 7400 pedals with toe clips and straps. Gives me all the support of a road shoe, with walkable soles, and they slide in and out like a dream. They have never accidentally come out and there has been no problems losing power on climbs.
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About 10 years ago I picked up some Specialized Sonomas, without the cleat, and they were nice, but the best shoe/pedal combination I have used are Specialized Elite Touring, without the cleat, that I slide into my old Dura Ace 7400 pedals with toe clips and straps. Gives me all the support of a road shoe, with walkable soles, and they slide in and out like a dream. They have never accidentally come out and there has been no problems losing power on climbs.
John
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01-03-17, 12:51 AM
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I'm a big fan of dual sided SPD pedals. You can ride them comfortably wearing regular shoes or you can flip the pedal and clip in while wearing MTB or touring shoes (which look and feel just like regular shoes but have a recessed cleat).
Like the OP, I like the ability to just jump on and go, but I also like the ability to clip in for more "serious" rides.
Like the OP, I like the ability to just jump on and go, but I also like the ability to clip in for more "serious" rides.
01-03-17, 07:46 AM
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I never went clipless (clip-in) even into the 90's I still wore cleated leathers with toe clips and straps. Eventually went to a touring shoe, which I didn't really like.
About 10 years ago I picked up some Specialized Sonomas, without the cleat, and they were nice, but the best shoe/pedal combination I have used are Specialized Elite Touring, without the cleat, that I slide into my old Dura Ace 7400 pedals with toe clips and straps. Gives me all the support of a road shoe, with walkable soles, and they slide in and out like a dream. They have never accidentally come out and there has been no problems losing power on climbs.
John
About 10 years ago I picked up some Specialized Sonomas, without the cleat, and they were nice, but the best shoe/pedal combination I have used are Specialized Elite Touring, without the cleat, that I slide into my old Dura Ace 7400 pedals with toe clips and straps. Gives me all the support of a road shoe, with walkable soles, and they slide in and out like a dream. They have never accidentally come out and there has been no problems losing power on climbs.
John
My buddy has been preaching clipless at me since the beginning, but I've never tried them, either.
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01-03-17, 10:17 AM
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Here's the thing: Your bicycle has only one purpose in life and that's to absolutely delight only one person in the entire world. Nobody else's opinion, including mine, matters one whit to your bicycle.
Here's the other thing: You don't have to worry about whether or not other riders are going to laugh at you. That's going to happen no matter what pedals, or pretty much anything else, that you use.
Here's the other thing: You don't have to worry about whether or not other riders are going to laugh at you. That's going to happen no matter what pedals, or pretty much anything else, that you use.
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I rode my Moser today and met some guys who liked my bike, but especially my shoes. They were both outfitted very differently.
The younger of the two asked me if I wore them dancing or wore them out for casual shoes (he really liked them - and no, we wear boots dancing)
The younger of the two asked me if I wore them dancing or wore them out for casual shoes (he really liked them - and no, we wear boots dancing)
01-03-17, 06:35 PM
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What kind of riding have you done all along and, more importantly, what kind of riding do you plan to do from now on?
I removed my clips and went straight platform pedals two years ago when I finally admitted to myself that all I will be doing going forward is commuting to work, taking short, easy overnight tours, and riding rail trails with my wife. It's the best decision I ever made, as now there's no psychological component (do I feel focused enough today to stay in the clips?) to getting on the bike and riding away.
At first, I thought I was losing power by eliminating the whole "upstroke" thing (which many good riders believe is nonsense), but now I don't even feel a difference anymore.
Are you still looking to win races?
I removed my clips and went straight platform pedals two years ago when I finally admitted to myself that all I will be doing going forward is commuting to work, taking short, easy overnight tours, and riding rail trails with my wife. It's the best decision I ever made, as now there's no psychological component (do I feel focused enough today to stay in the clips?) to getting on the bike and riding away.
At first, I thought I was losing power by eliminating the whole "upstroke" thing (which many good riders believe is nonsense), but now I don't even feel a difference anymore.
Are you still looking to win races?
01-03-17, 08:03 PM
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a couple of published technical articles that indicate upstroke doesn't gain anything
and I think the OP declared his intention on the previous page
I think we're always good.
Somewhere there was actually a study that may have proved you wrong, that upstroke pull doesn't really gain anything - this topic comes up all the time on google groups - maybe I can search it out - weathered in today.
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Effect of Pedaling Technique on Mechanical Effectiveness and Efficiency in Cyclists, Korf et al. DOI: 10.1249/mss.0b013e318043a235
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...cy_in_Cyclists
Effects of Pedal Type and Pull-Up Action during Cycling, Mornieux et al. DOI 10.1055/s-2008-1038374
https://www.radlabor.de/fileadmin/PDF...aefte_2008.pdf
Somewhere there was actually a study that may have proved you wrong, that upstroke pull doesn't really gain anything - this topic comes up all the time on google groups - maybe I can search it out - weathered in today.
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Effect of Pedaling Technique on Mechanical Effectiveness and Efficiency in Cyclists, Korf et al. DOI: 10.1249/mss.0b013e318043a235
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...cy_in_Cyclists
Effects of Pedal Type and Pull-Up Action during Cycling, Mornieux et al. DOI 10.1055/s-2008-1038374
https://www.radlabor.de/fileadmin/PDF...aefte_2008.pdf
Wow thanks for all the great suggestions. I'm a bit on info overload at the moment, but I plan to sort through it all and give a set of platforms a try. I have the Shimano clip ins with the flat on one side, but I need a bit more area for my size 13's. For now I have a great pair of shoes to start the journey, but as time progresses I'll take a look at options. I can always go back to my clip-ins should I decide it's my preference. Again thanks for the help. Ron
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01-03-17, 08:16 PM
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+1 on the dual sided spd's. Proven and still around.
I have tried other fad brands and then end up getting shkrewed when something goes wrong with one of the pedals. With spd's, I know I can easily find a replacement if needed. I hate having to switch cleats etc cause I can't find a replacement for a broken pedal.
FTR, never had a broken Shimano SPD, not one in 20 years of consistent cycling.
I have tried other fad brands and then end up getting shkrewed when something goes wrong with one of the pedals. With spd's, I know I can easily find a replacement if needed. I hate having to switch cleats etc cause I can't find a replacement for a broken pedal.
FTR, never had a broken Shimano SPD, not one in 20 years of consistent cycling.
01-03-17, 11:04 PM
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of course Shimano was the fad brand when many of us started cycling - the OP specifically asked for options to replace spds.
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Nice to get away from the over-hyped nonsense of 'clipless pedals'. It's just something to stomp on for crying out loud!
I use the MKS Sylvan Road pedal and it is smooth and reliable. MKS Slyvan Road Pedal > Components > Pedals | Jenson USA About $30. Or you can dig up a set of the original Campys that these knock off for a couple of hundred!
I use the MKS Sylvan Road pedal and it is smooth and reliable. MKS Slyvan Road Pedal > Components > Pedals | Jenson USA About $30. Or you can dig up a set of the original Campys that these knock off for a couple of hundred!
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I started riding with road quill pedals with clips and straps circa 1970, and that is what I still use exclusively. I set the straps just loose enough that I can yank out either foot. My tastes in shoes run toward rubber soles with internal steel shanks, which work fine, but I still miss my Avocet touring shoes, with their four parallel transverse grooves. If someone would introduce a knockoff of those, I would definitely try it.
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yes, Avocet touring shoes were the best cycling shoes ever made.
