Originally Posted by

**GrannyGear**
Enough technical stuff above, so here's an anecdote:

I bought a bike in the mid-80's when criterium geometry was king--except maybe in Italy. 74 headtube, 74 seat tube. Standover height seemed right. reach to the bars was right. But, rides over 15 miles just weren't "right" feeling. It did turn on a dime--in fact, it wanted to turn all the time. If there were setback seatposts then, newbie me hadn't heard of them. Improper saddle position must have been such a universal problem given the then trendy geometry, that one enterprising manufacturer carved an aluminum block which attached to your seatpost, effectively "setting back" your saddle attachment about 1.5". I bought one. Presto! My geometry got slackened to probably 72 or 73, the bike (with a shorter stem) fit and rode very nicely. The front end even felt better. The bike is now a fine ride for metric centuries... My aluminum setback block is still there. Performance sold them out twice in one season. Imagine that.