We have the famous Ride Your Age challenge every year (well, two years running now), and we've discussed at length Irma's famous pie (or equivalent) and how delicious it is at the end (perhaps during?) a longish ride.
So here's the question: What's your minimum acceptable distance for a real, honest-to-goodness, man, that was one helluva ride "Ride for the Pie" ride? You know, one that both makes you really EARN that pie, and, on the other hand, feel completely guilt-free eating it.
For me, at my stage of training, any RIDE for the PIE has to be at least 50 miles. You?