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Let's see, in one sentence here goes. Behind a reliable, known partner (especially if big and broad), I sometimes like to draft maybe 18 inches off his wheel. For others I'll drift back farther. When I get back something over a wheel length, there seems no point. Assuming a frontal breeze or even a calm, where do others find themselves tucking in? |
Originally Posted by GrannyGear
Sorry...my lengthy, highly technical, witty and entertaining post somehow didn't make it through the Strait of Hormuz server at BF....and now I forgot what it was. Gotta remember to copy anything I post on our temperamental server.
Let's see, in one sentence here goes. Behind a reliable, known partner (especially if big and broad), I sometimes like to draft maybe 18 inches off his wheel. For others I'll drift back farther. When I get back something over a wheel length, there seems no point. Assuming a frontal breeze or even a calm, where do others find themselves tucking in? |
Because I am neither smooth, graceful, coordinated, nor predictable, I don't draft others, and I discourage others from drafting me. As we said in the late 1960s, "say no to the draft." :)
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If I've done a bit of riding with the person I'll get within 6-10 inches of their wheel always trying to stay a bit off center left, in case we brush I know which way to go. If it is someone I don't know well, will stay 12 inches or more behind until I get a feel for their riding style and then will creep up a bit. With folks I know, I know they will be sharp and will will point out any holes or debris, also will inform me of anything up a head that will cause a change in pace. On a steep hill will back off and let everyone work at their own pace, form back up ath the top.
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If I've done a bit of riding with the person I'll get within 6-10 inches of their wheel always trying to stay a bit off center left, in case we brush I know which way to go. If it is someone I don't know well, will stay 12 inches or more behind until I get a feel for their riding style and then will creep up a bit. With folks I know, I know they will be sharp and will will point out any holes or debris, also will inform me of anything up a head that will cause a change in pace. On a steep hill will back off and let everyone work at their own pace, form back up ath the top.
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For me it somewhat depends on the "purpose of the ride", people I'm riding with and the terrain. Generally with folks I know I'm tucked in about as close as you can get and still react to speed changes. I've never really thought about it but it's definitely a lot less than a foot. Every once in a while I'll even "bump" tires with the fellow ahead of me....not intentionally of course but just a slight nudge. I'm always very conscious of crossing wheels and I work really hard to make sure that's not an issue. I also drop back a good bit on descents and give folks a lot more room as well.
With folks I might meet out on the road doing organized rides I'm probably around a foot or so. |
With my normal riding partner we about 4"-6" with the bigger group rides i usually stay 8"-12" depending on how the rider in front of me is riding, # of lights on the route etc. So far no touches.
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If I know 'em, about 6" and slightly off line in case they stand...... If I don't know them 12 - 18" if they look like they know what they are doing, otherwise I stay away. It's not worth it.
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6 inches behind my regular ride partners, slightly left. Since I'm big and ride more upright, they tuck in close and coast, the slackers.
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Just keep in mind that drafting is OK but wheel sucking is rude.
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About the same as most replies. Within a foot for familiar and trusted riders, 1 to 2 feet for unknown riders if they ride consistently and it feels right. Any sign of squirreliness and I drop back or pull away.
Also, if the train starts to gather too many riders, I drop out. I've seen 20+ bike pacelines form on the Bicycle Ride Across Georgia. The accordian effect gets so bad at the back, it is harder than riding solo, not to mention the danger of a 20 bike bile-up. |
Geez, 6 inches!! I've been riding for a bit over a year now, almost all solo. I have trouble imagining getting that close to someone's wheel. Not to mention that one one of the guys that I work with, a serious triathlete and biker, just separated his shoulder on his last bike ride when the person in front of him went down. I admit pacelines sound like fun, but ...
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Originally Posted by nmichell
Geez, 6 inches!! I've been riding for a bit over a year now, almost all solo. I have trouble imagining getting that close to someone's wheel. Not to mention that one one of the guys that I work with, a serious triathlete and biker, just separated his shoulder on his last bike ride when the person in front of him went down. I admit pacelines sound like fun, but ...
I guess the risk/reward ratio is satisfactory for those who do this. I used to fly aerobatics. It was a lot more fun at low altitude because you had a much greater sense of speed. On the other hand............... "...and then the wheels came off" |
I don't draft with strangers at all--I've seen two really bad crashes caused by unpredictable paceline behavior, and I'm not going to get caught up in one. I don't even draft my wife, who's a pretty strong rider but has a tendency to slow down without warning to look at cows and things.
With people I know, three or four guys I've ridden with for years, I hang about a foot back. Closer would probably be better, but we're JRA, so what's it matter? |
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