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    Recommendations for Vancouver/Victoria?

    We will be in Vancouver & Victoria, BC next week for a conference & vacation. Staying downtown in Vancouver & in a B&B in Victoria. My 'partner' has found a downtown LBS that rents bikes. Since we're also in the market for new bikes, we'll get to try different models than we normally ride.

    Anyone have recommendations on good 10-20 mile rides or perhaps up to 30 miles RT? Loops that have a decent overlook with casual cafe/biergarten somewhere around halfway? Since we've never ridden further than 22 miles on country roads with our MTB's, we could try to stretch a bit.

    There are good Vancouver bike route maps but I thought I would query this group for any personal experiences.

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    I'm watching this one as we are either going to Victoria or Portland in October.

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    appears that I should have posted this one to the TOURING thread, maybe...
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    In Vic you can try this: http://www.gallopinggoosetrail.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by babaluey
    In Vic you can try this: http://www.gallopinggoosetrail.com/
    thanks very much - I'd already identified the Fairfield Bike Shop in Victoria as a place to visit & the Galloping Goose looks wonderful
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    Tom, say something "special" about our northern brethern--that'll bring some responses. Call them "canucks" or say something about how they say "about"--eh? I know that there are several 50 plussers from the Van area, bikerbob, I think is from Surrey--a suburb of Van.

    My dad was from Vancouver, I've got a lot of family in the area, and I've spent a lot of time up there, but not in the past 20 years. It's way too crowded for me--it is a very large city after all. I used to live 60 miles south of the border and my neighbors were Canadians and commuted to Van daily--it was cheaper than living there. There are a lot of people squashed into a rather small area.

    The city proper tends to be hilly although the Delta area and the Fraser valley are flatter, but neither are within the 10 mile or so radius of downtown Van. Interesting neighborhoods? Yes, Vancouver is a very eastern city, totally unlike the western cities of the US. Lots of ethnic neighborhoods therefore interesting eateries and such. And Canadian beer is some of the best--typically runs about 8% or so, totally unlike our 3.2 beer. Beautiful parks and a lot of scenic views--of course scenic views means hills.

    I know this doesn't help, no real advice here; but it is a beautiful city, the summer days are fantastic--and long--and the parks are beautiful. You should have fun.

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    "Sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason"
    old99 - Truer words were never spoken!

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    My 'partner' has just informed me that she knows exactly where we're going to ride and that she's already picked out the route that will take us by the museums, restaurants & shops that she wishes to visit. I just hope I get to pick out the bike I want to rent but she may already have that selected as well.

    I agree that Vancouver gets kudos for its urban / urbane quality of life. My only experience of Vancouver is driving a rented van full of family through the city in the rain while all the passengers ooh and aah about the sights so just being on a bike will be a pleasure. And not being there at Christmas will be nice, too. My sister lives in Bellingham, just south of Vancouver, so she'll join us and show us around.

    I like Canada & Canadians & appreciate their tolerance of diversity - refreshingly different from the conservative part of the country I have inhabited most of my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by centexwoody
    We will be in Vancouver & Victoria, BC next week for a conference & vacation. Staying downtown in Vancouver & in a B&B in Victoria. My 'partner' has found a downtown LBS that rents bikes. Since we're also in the market for new bikes, we'll get to try different models than we normally ride.
    Anyone have recommendations on good 10-20 mile rides or perhaps up to 30 miles RT? Loops that have a decent overlook with casual cafe/biergarten somewhere around halfway? Since we've never ridden further than 22 miles on country roads with our MTB's, we could try to stretch a bit.
    There are good Vancouver bike route maps but I thought I would query this group for any personal experiences. thnx, Tom
    Am I too late to respond to this one? I live in Victoria, and may be able to assist you. A great local ride is the Regional Trail called the Galloping Goose Regional Trail, which also connects to the Lochside Trail on the Saanich Penninsula. At this time, you can leave the ferry, connect to the Lochside Trail, ride it south into Victoria, and then you can head west out to and past the Western Communities out to Leechtown. That would be at least a days ride just to do that. But, that's just an example. Let me know if I can be of any further assistance, assuming I'm not too late already.
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    thanks for the rec - your's is the 2nd for the Galloping Goose & the photos look wonderful - we're going to do it next Sat. or Sun. probably

    I see you are an LHT owner - I've been dreaming of an LHT or a CrossCheck but haven't figured out the differences between them yet. Obviously you like yours?
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    Quote Originally Posted by centexwoody
    I agree that Vancouver gets kudos for its urban / urbane quality of life. ...

    I like Canada & Canadians & appreciate their tolerance of diversity - refreshingly different from the conservative part of the country I have inhabited most of my life.
    Vancouver is an amazing town. I've never heard so many different languages being spoken in one place outside of an international airport. And Victoria....what can I say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by old99
    My dad was from Vancouver, I've got a lot of family in the area, and I've spent a lot of time up there, but not in the past 20 years. It's way too crowded for me--it is a very large city after all. I used to live 60 miles south of the border and my neighbors were Canadians and commuted to Van daily--it was cheaper than living there. There are a lot of people squashed into a rather small area.

    The city proper tends to be hilly although the Delta area and the Fraser valley are flatter, but neither are within the 10 mile or so radius of downtown Van. Interesting neighborhoods? Yes, Vancouver is a very eastern city, totally unlike the western cities of the US. Lots of ethnic neighborhoods therefore interesting eateries and such. And Canadian beer is some of the best--typically runs about 8% or so, totally unlike our 3.2 beer. Beautiful parks and a lot of scenic views--of course scenic views means hills.

    JiO
    Sorry, just noticed this thread. Too late to respond, but hope you had a nice time in Vancouver & Victoria.

    If you just ride casually, Vancouver has some nice bike routes. The two best-used are the Cypress route (N/S) and the Adanac route (E/W). These are side streets that have been designated as bike routes, and they are marked as such and are equipped with barriers to make life difficult for motorists trying to get anywhere on them. Most bike shops will have a variety of Vancouver bike maps. Most are free, one costs $3.95, and I don't think it's much better than the free ones.

    Most casual cyclists who rent bikes ride around Stanley Park on the seawall bike path. The racers train on the roadway around Stanley Park. You don't want to be in Stanley Park on sunny weekends unless you like dodging cars driven by tourists.

    Another nice place to ride is the Seymour Demonstration Forest. This is a 9-km mixed use path up in the hills of North Vancouver. Avoid it on weekends (unless you like dodging roller bladers, runners, roller-skiers, kids on bikes, etc), but on weekdays, it's a nice, quiet, rolling ride thru very quiet and dense rain forest. Just watch for the odd bear.

    If you're a hardcore roadie, you want to ride out in the Fraser Valley. And of course, North Vancouver is a mecca for expert mountain bikers.

    And Canadian beer, well... I personally think Canadian beer is highly overrated. The common Canadian brands (Molson, Labatt's, Kokanee) are not much better than Bud or Miller (High Life, not MGD which is not much tastier than water). Try to find Granville Island or Okanagan Springs or Shaftebury on tap, or better yet, try out the various microbrews. They're quite good, but not up to the quality and taste of microbrews from Oregon. But that's just my opinion. I'm a big fan of India Pale Ales, and the best IPA's I've tasted have been brewed in Oregon. Maybe they grow better hops down there. Anyway, don't get me started on good beers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilM
    And Victoria....what can I say?
    Why thank you Neil!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lhbernhardt
    Anyway, don't get me started on good beers...
    Too late!

    Remember a couple of decades ago a beer called Uncle Bens, from up around Okanagan? Had a picture of Uncle Ben--big bearded guy in his plaids--on the label? IMHO, the best beer ever brewed.

    Excuse me while I observe a moment of silence in it's passing (a tear gently rolls down my cheek)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by old99
    Remember a couple of decades ago a beer called Uncle Bens, from up around Okanagan? Had a picture of Uncle Ben--big bearded guy in his plaids--on the label? IMHO, the best beer ever brewed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Paulie
    Like this?
    Yes...sniff, sniff...that's the one.

    Real shame is that we all talk about how much better certain things were in the past--bikes, cars, original Coke--but this was one really great beer. I lived in Texas at the time and had to set up a network so I could get a shipment now and then. It's too bad that it still not around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old99
    Real shame is that we all talk about how much better certain things were in the past--bikes, cars, original Coke
    Don't ge me started about the original coke. They messed with the formula (for profit reasons only) several years before the new coke debacle. When they went back to the original coke formula, it was the "new" original coke, not the "real" original coke.

    I read a story a while back about a group of archeologists who found a case of those small bottles of Coke while going through an abandoned, WWII era American militray base in the South Pacific. They refrigerated the case, then opened one up, drank it, and couldn't beleive how much better it was than today's coke. (And it still had carbination!)

    One thing I think is hilarious about Coke is that they use the imagery of the old 8oz glass bottles on their aluminum cans and large plastic bottles. What a weird way to keep their legacy alive.

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    You can buy me a Coke anytime, BP! I love it when you go on a rant. Makes those veins pop out on your neck! Go, Tiger!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didi Diego
    You can buy me a Coke anytime, BP! I love it when you go on a rant. Makes those veins pop out on your neck! Go, Tiger!
    I know our divorce became final in 1978, Didi, but must you continue to throw your wanton lust in my face???

    And who is this BP cat? Some fat-assed Jan Ulrich wannabe with too much time on his hands and a mountain of useless anecdotes he lays on the cyling public for his own entertainment?

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    Gary D,

    Calm down my son. The Good Father has arrived. In a nut shell I am a specialist. All us clergy types are experts. We Hatch, Match, Patch, and Dispatch. You and DiDi need to move beyond any differences and go on with life. Ride your bike to the disco, say four Hail Marys, and see me in the confessional at 8:00 a.m. sharp!

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    successful day tours in BC

    What a wonderful couple of days we spent tooling about Vancouver on rented bicycles! We rented from a local shop on Denman (there is only one that will tell you ALL the charges upfront) - me on a Giant Rock or something like that, my wife on a Giant Cypress. (Isn't that Digital Gary's ride of choice?) Very comfortable rides and we headed along the False Creek harbor edge, over the Burrard St. bridge & then down through the neighborhoods to Univ of British Columbia. Enjoyed a bistro lunch on campus overlooking the rose gardens, walked through the Japanese gardens and the UBC Botanical Gardens. Then rode with the commuter bike traffic back across town at around 5 pm. Never been in a 'real' commuting situation before and was able to simply follow the bike route by following the crowd...

    2nd day was around Stanley Park (a one-way route) then into False Creek, Chinatown, Yaletown, afternoon on Granville Island eating seafood, dark chocolate and quaffing G.I. Ale.

    Total miles each day were probably between 15 - 20 spread over 8 hours. Cost for 2 bikes / day: ~ 47 bucks. Well worth the investment and we'll do it again in our next city visit...

    All around a delightful way to see the city. Next trip we'll rent bikes for Victoria over on Vancouver Island and try the Galloping Goose Trail.
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