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Old 07-12-06, 08:08 PM   #1
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I'm afraid that I am going to get smoked on Tuesday

Tuesday evening (July 18th) I am going out for a ride with someone who will be one of my new graduate students in the Fall. Normally I wouldn't sweat this, but this guy is not your typical rider. Even though he claims that he is WAY out of shape and 30 pounds too heavy I am very wary. In 2003 he was living in Australia and was asked by Robbie McEwen (yes, the Green Jersey wearing Robbie McEwen) to be on a four man team for a stage race in the Brisbane area. I'm thinking that I am getting in WAY over my head on this one. I know that he has been riding because I have run into him on the road (going the opposite way) twice in the last few weeks. He has been saying things like "I'm really out of shape and I'm afraid you will leave me in the dust" but I'm thinking that is like the guys that go into the weight room claiming that they haven't lifted in years and then do reps on the highest weight on the machine. If you don't hear from me next Wednesday please notify my next of kin that I am probably dead on the side of the road.
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Dang! When I saw the title of this thread and the poster I got all excited! Smoked mollusk--seafood! One of my favorite topics!

Then I read the thread. Nothing about shrimp on the barbie, no smoked oysters, no cracked crab, no local lagers, no sandy beaches, nothing, nada. I'm so disappointed.

But I feel better knowing that yer gonna' get yer butt kicked.
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You think you'll get smoked by a guy who rode on a four man team with Robbie McEwen? Sounds about right to me. But what the hell; enjoy the ride and the chance to talk with someone who's actually ridden with McEwen.... assuming you have enough breath to talk.
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Old 07-12-06, 08:35 PM   #4
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Ancient Chinese philospher says: "Never let another cyclist determine the quality of your ride."

If he wants to hammer and you can't hang, give a cheerful wave and say, "See ya later." If you can (or want to) handle his speed, maybe you'll have found find a good riding partner.
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Remember that scene in "Breaking Away" where the Italian Europro sticks his pump in Dave Stoller's spokes?
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Old 07-12-06, 09:22 PM   #6
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Remember that scene in "Breaking Away" where the Italian Europro sticks his pump in Dave Stoller's spokes?
Yes, I remember. The problem is that in my mid I will always be Dave and never the Italian pros. So are you saying that I should look out for a frame pump being stuck into my front wheel?
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Well, Mollusk, they say the best way to get faster is to ride with faster riders, so................all of BF50Plus is behind you (way,way behind you) and we know you'll do us proud.

Just remember, nobody likes a wheelsucker so take your pulls at the front, too.

You know, we're all enjoying this, here in our cushy pc chairs, and can't wait for your post-ride report.
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I guess I'd expect to get smoked also. I don't think I'd let it bother me. Ride your ride. I think it would be great to say I rode with and was beaten by one of McEwen's team mates. Even greater if you could say you hung with or out performed McEwen's former team mate.

According to your post he was asked by McEwen to be on a four man team. Are you sure the four man tea, included McEwen? Perhaps McEwen put a 4 man amateur team together.
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Somewhere near the start of the ride- ask him if it is his wheel that has the wobble or the tyre not seated properly- later on mention that the wobbles getting bigger. Won't slow him much- but might take the edge off his performance.
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Are you sure the four man tea, included McEwen? Perhaps McEwen put a 4 man amateur team together.
Maybe that was it--he was part of a four man TEA that McEwen put together. You know, some nice tea an' biscuit at Macs mum's, and a nice chat an' all. Nothing at all to worry about.

Naw.

Sorry webist, it was too good to pass up
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Stick a dead squirrel in your pocket, and just before you get dropped throw it in the guys spokes. Laugh as you go by. Oh, I forgot this is the 50+ forum. Can't do that here.

Make your pedals scream for mercy! If he's anybody worth knowing he'll see the effort and appreciate you as a friend. A slow friend, but a friend none the less. Have a great ride!
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Old 07-13-06, 05:38 AM   #12
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Somewhere near the start of the ride- ask him if it is his wheel that has the wobble or the tyre not seated properly- later on mention that the wobbles getting bigger. Won't slow him much- but might take the edge off his performance.
When I was in high school, we used to drive by a car, roll our windows down, and yell out very seriously, "Your wheels are turning" as if something awful was wrong with their car. Confused the heck out of the driver, who would stop and check over their car.

Perhaps you could yell out something like - "Your pedals are clipped" or something similar!

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Old 07-13-06, 05:50 AM   #13
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Kick his Aussie arse!!





Then run......
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Old 07-13-06, 08:00 AM   #14
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as a new grad student...

If he's going to be under your direction for the next several years, this ride could be the start of something really good. If he smokes you this time, just remember old age & treachery wins out over youth and vigor in the long run and that you'll get the chance to extract your lb. of flesh in the coming years.

If he's smart, he'll respond to your riding style and not try to show off - if I were in his position, I don't think I'd try to pull any real ego-trippin' 'leave the ol' guy in the dust' stunts. If he does then you can consider where his research focus may be headed over the next several years...

Who knows? He may be riding for the fun of it & is delighted that you are into cycling just like he is and the competition will be friendly and long-term.
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I'll bet he stays with you.
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I'll bet he stays with you.

All joking aside... +1 to this.
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Old 07-13-06, 11:09 AM   #17
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Sounds like a pretty good rider, but one that you can stay with as long as you need to.
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Old 07-13-06, 05:20 PM   #18
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So want to know how this goes. There have been enough suggestions, I have nothing to add. This thread just pure tickled my funny bone.
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Your post reminds me of this guy I know in Michigan. I call him Mike the plumber.
Like me, he spends his evenings on this park road biking.
His Standard Operating Procedure is to say that he is ill, got injured or has not been biking. He then stays on your wheel until he thinks the time is right and then buzzes by at very high cadence and speed.
Needless to say, he is running out of friends.
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This guy is aware that as a FiftyPlusser, you are a Titan of Cycling....certainly in your age group. Can't imagine anyone other than a jerk blowing off somebody whose top-end HR might be 30 or 40 beats below his own. Especially if he's an experienced cyclist. There are all kinds of rides, everything from take no prisoners to a low gear "bike walk". I've even heard of social rides where people discuss politics, etc. while tooling along at 16mph and come back refreshed and content.

No need to make every ride a test of worthiness, skill, toughness, cyclomachismo.

You two might just have fun and begin a productive relationship and lay the foundation for other rides.
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Geez, he's going to be your grad student and you're worried? If he starts to drop you, instead of sticking a pump in his spokes, just start working the words "orals," "defense" "research grants" "assistantship," "publications" or whatever is appropraite to your discipline into the conversation. If he's smart enough to be a grad student, you'll have no worries.
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