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    Ask your dumb question here...

    Since the 50+ forum is generally the friendliest (I'm biased) area on BF, I thought this might be a good spot to ask the un-askable or the "I just gotta know" questions. Since I am beyond being embarrassed at this point I have two questions to ask.

    1. What is the correct name for the "dork disk" and what is it's function?

    2. What's the deal with pie?

    I'm sure many more such probing questions will follow.

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    1) Don't know the actual name, but it's to keep the chain away from the spokes if it slips off the large cog. So called because "only a dork" would have such badly adjusted derailleurs.

    2) It is the food of the gods. Silly man.
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    The official name for the dork disk is a spoke protector.

    Its purpose is to protect the spokes.

    It is intended to keep a misaligned or poorly adjusted or damaged rear derailleur from causing damage to the spokes by either wrapping the chain or itself against the spokes.

    And now that you mention pie... It seems to me that long ago, before they were called dork disks, spoke protectors were called pie plates... so maybe somewhere in there is the answer to your pie question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgregory57
    The official name for the dork disk is a spoke protector.

    Its purpose is to protect the spokes.

    It is intended to keep a misaligned or poorly adjusted or damaged rear derailleur from causing damage to the spokes by either wrapping the chain or itself against the spokes.

    And now that you mention pie... It seems to me that long ago, before they were called dork disks, spoke protectors were called pie plates... so maybe somewhere in there is the answer to your pie question.

    Cool, and after that I found a description on Sheldon Brown's glossary page...but no pie...

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    More questions...

    Why does a man who weighs 300 pounds weigh different vintage cranks to figure which set to put on a heavy gas pipe bike instead of just picking the best looking set?

    I know someone who did this.

    Why is biking as fun now as it was in our youth, and yet so many of us spent 25 years or more without a bike in between?

    How many bikes is too many?
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    No such thing as a dumb question....just a dumb asker. Many months ago, a regular poster named "rck" and his riding compadre "skipper" would ride out of town in some rural backwater (Wisconsin?...a place that cherished deep fried cheese curd) and end up at a country cafe known simply as "Irma's". Irma serves heavenly blueberry pie. It became legendary. Soon there were pictures of Irma's pie being posted and salivated over. Stapfam started posting English breakfast pics including "buns"--whatever they are. "Pie" grew into an institution here-- the long sought holy grail of riding. A BF'er could think of nothing more glorious than to destroy him/herself for many miles--all for a piece of such divine pie. You could put on pounds or climb frightening grades just thinking about Irma's pie....it's "crust was effervescent and its deep blue filling as beguiling as a trollop's heart"-- or so DG testified. Anyway, pie is almost sacramental here. And that's the rest of the story.

    On Monte Velo a por Mange..........we ride to eat.

    Dork disk? Beats me....unless it's that plastic spoke protector on your rear wheel that prevents maladjusted rd calamities. Somebody else?
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    Hey, I'm going to Wisconsisn in a couple of days! What town and place do I find this famous pie?

    And why is deraileur spelled that way instead of derailer?

    Are you supposed to pronounce it deerailer or deerailoor?

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    Cross chain- You forgot to add that Irma's has become the "Virtual" club house of the 50+Forum. As to the bun side- It is almost like a pie- but in the UK a pie can be sweet or savoury- only obligation is that it has to have a pastry base. Steak and kidney pies, pork pies and thanks to our heritage, Cornish Pasties, are all forms of savoury pies. The English equivalent of a Sweet pie does not universally exist so we are stuck with the bun and cake side of things. These vary so much, and nice as they are, they are nowhere as good as Apple, Rhubarb or Blueberry Pies that seems to abound in the US. I have to make do with Eccles cakes, Date and Walnut cake, or at a pinch- Chocolate Gateaux.
    By far the best ride treat though is A full English Breakfast. We ride miles to find one, and have discovered the best one for Variety is at a Bikers Cafe (Motorbikes) that is only 6 miles from home. A good few years ago I had an unfortunate Incident with a Cafe about 30 miles from home. Insipid Eggs, Sausages that were mainly cereal, Bacon that was very Salty, Tomatoes that were watery. That decided to set our Quest for the perfect breakfast.

    We used to go to A cafe 15 miles from home and we tried to get the chef to do a breakfast on a Sunday. One day the chef was off and the owner served us- We asked for 3 breakfasts. Certainly now what do you want in it? That shocked us but that breakfast became famous and became a regular feature on the menu- after 4 years of trying to get the chef to make one. That breakfast was 2 fried eggs, 2 rashers of bacon, 2 sausages, mushrooms, Saute Potatoes, Fried bread and Grilled tomatoes. On top of that was toast and conserves (Honey, Jam, Marmalade, and Marmite) and all the ingredients were top quality organic farm fresh foods so no nasty additives anywhere. And all at a very sensible price.

    Alas- the cafe changed hands and although the breakfast is still Good- It is no longer excellent and is smaller. When we go to that cafe we have to top it up with a couple of scones and clotted cream just to give us enough energy for the 15 miles back home after wards.

    My rides now take in an Italian restaurant that Has the best coffee I have ever tasted - but the breakfasts do not come up to much so have to make do with Cheesecake or some form of Gateaux. Not the same as a good apple Pie but they do not make a good one.
    Can't wait for winter to come so we can get out along the coast towns, without the hordes of tourists, to investigate the location of the perfect Breakfast. Attachment of the breakfast is a good one but not the Good one before the Cafe changed hands. Others are just of the cakes and buns that we sometimes have over here.(Or in Turkey as they know how to make a good looking cake- Don't taste that good though)
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    Irma's Kitchen...Argyle, WI

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    Quote Originally Posted by stapfam
    As to the bun side- It is almost like a pie- but in the UK a pie can be sweet or savoury- )

    So, if I was to say that I had "a bun in the oven".....it would mean I had a special treat in store for me?

    I'm glad we speak the same language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossChain
    So, if I was to say that I had "a bun in the oven".....it would mean I had a special treat in store for me?

    I'm glad we speak the same language.
    If you've got a bun in the oven- I would be shocked at your age, and gender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgregory57
    More questions...

    Why does a man who weighs 300 pounds weigh different vintage cranks to figure which set to put on a heavy gas pipe bike instead of just picking the best looking set?

    I know someone who did this.
    Maybe he has a roof rack?

    Quote Originally Posted by dgregory57
    Why is biking as fun now as it was in our youth, and yet so many of us spent 25 years or more without a bike in between?
    The bike was just as much fun in between, but we weren't.

    Quote Originally Posted by dgregory57
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    Two more than you own at any time.

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    Who was the vintage Italian rider who insisted on carrying his water bottles in jersey pockets because it made his bike lighter and therefore climbing easier??
    Riding and aging don't get easier, you just get slower at slowing down.] (FiftyPlus observation inspired by G. Lemond.)

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    What does it mean when someone says a frame is stiff?

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    I keep hearing other types of pies mentioned here - apple and all that.

    No, no no!

    The 50+ Forum's pie is BLUEBERRY! None other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DnvrFox
    I keep hearing other types of pies mentioned here - apple and all that.

    No, no no!

    The 50+ Forum's pie is BLUEBERRY! None other.
    I hate when I see pieism raise it's ugly head!

    We're bigger than that. We can celebrate pies of all descriptions, meeting all tastes.

    We are all pie. There is but one pie, which is expressed in many flavors.

    May the pie in me see the pie in you.

    Are we all pies, having a human experience, or humans, having a pie experience?

    There are many roads to pie. All roads lead to pie.

    Let he who is without pie cast the first fork.

    A pie in the stomach is worth about 15 miles on the road.

    One man's pie is another man's pie.

    Do we live to eat pie, or eat pie to live?
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    I am fighting Tevye's battle right here on the 50+ forum. TRADITION reigns. Adding "ism" to nouns does not make a truth.

    Blueberry it is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DnvrFox
    Blueberry it is!
    I am sorry, but I can remain silent no longer. Blackberry it is, was and ever more shall be.
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    This is cool...

    A fifty plus holy war!

    I was starting to get tired of all of the fun loving cooperation in this forum... This may lead to something interesting!



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    It's deep dish Dutch apple pie, dammit!
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    Two pie are squared

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowandsteady
    Two pie are squared
    Maybe in some places. In my part of the world pie are round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobkat
    Hey, I'm going to Wisconsisn in a couple of days! What town and place do I find this famous pie?

    And why is deraileur spelled that way instead of derailer?

    Are you supposed to pronounce it deerailer or deerailoor?
    Sheldon Brown answers or derailer question, at least for spelling.

    BTW, there a couple of famous places in Wis. for pies that have probably never been mentioned in BF before. The Norske Nook in Osseo(downtown off I-94 south of Eau Claire) has been nationaly rated by several magazines as having some of the best pie in the US.
    Also Gina's Pie r Square(she was a math major I believe in college) in Wilton( the mid point of Elroy-Sparta Trail) has been written about in several newspapers. Great pies there.
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    - blackbottom pecan pie like my grandmother used to make

    - altho # 2 makes a mean key lime so my loyalties are torn

    -My vote is for approved pie times on PrIdE Day so all may smile and eat the pie of their choice at the time and in the place of their choice

    - let no man declare his pie must be my pie

    or ask me to lie about anyone's pie: pseudo-pieity will not be tolerated
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