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Old 10-08-06, 04:50 PM   #1
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Woo hoo, best wheelbuild ever!!

Just had to crow!

I just finished rebuilding the rear wheel for my tandem. It's a dishless wheel with a Hadley hub, Velocity Dyad rim and 40 DT Alpine spokes crossed four.

Final trueing required NO adjustment for dish, NO adjustment for radial runout and only 2 minor (1mm) side-to-side wobbles.
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Old 10-08-06, 05:22 PM   #2
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Old 10-08-06, 05:45 PM   #3
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Just had to crow!

I just finished rebuilding the rear wheel for my tandem. It's a dishless wheel with a Hadley hub, Velocity Dyad rim and 40 DT Alpine spokes crossed four.

Final trueing required NO adjustment for dish, NO adjustment for radial runout and only 2 minor (1mm) side-to-side wobbles.
Everything after the second sentence is Greek to me! But it sounds like you did something good.
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Old 10-08-06, 05:58 PM   #4
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You only get one day like this. Now, you'll have to quit cycling and find something else.
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Old 10-08-06, 06:21 PM   #5
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I'm with DG...it does sound good. I know what rebuild the wheel is but the parts are greek or french er sumthin' But hey, I'm still trying to figure out what clipless is...
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Oh, that's easy, Metric Man. Clipless means you got clips. Clear?
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That's wonderful. You use a tensiometer I assume. I've built wheels using the tuning fork method, but I used pitch pipes. It lasted 2 years, not bad for a beginner. I first aligned everything by aligning it using only hand-tightening of the nipples, and then when I got it right, then I worked on tightening it without letting things shift too much.

What did you do this time different than previously?
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Old 10-08-06, 11:35 PM   #8
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Just had to crow!

I just finished rebuilding the rear wheel for my tandem. It's a dishless wheel with a Hadley hub, Velocity Dyad rim and 40 DT Alpine spokes crossed four.

Final trueing required NO adjustment for dish, NO adjustment for radial runout and only 2 minor (1mm) side-to-side wobbles.
Congratulations! Sounds like you did well. So, how is the tension? You have checked the tension…



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Old 10-09-06, 01:24 AM   #9
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Congratulations on your successful wheel build. There are some days when everything just seems to go right. I haven't gotten up the nerve to build a wheel yet. I've got a great set of Ultegra/Mavic CXP33s on my Lemond and they've held up beautifully, no trueing needed in over three years and I'm 220#+. They were built at Colorado Cyclist.
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Old 10-09-06, 07:00 AM   #10
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So, how long you been building wheels? I'm thinking of giving it a try. Meanwhile, I'm feeling pretty good about myself after re-dishing the rear wheel for my fixed gear conversion without it looking like a taco.
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Old 10-09-06, 07:24 AM   #11
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That's wonderful. You use a tensiometer I assume. I've built wheels using the tuning fork method, but I used pitch pipes. It lasted 2 years, not bad for a beginner. I first aligned everything by aligning it using only hand-tightening of the nipples, and then when I got it right, then I worked on tightening it without letting things shift too much.

What did you do this time different than previously?
I built my first wheel around 35 years ago. I've built enough since then that I don't know exactly how many I've done but it's in the low hundreds so I've had some practice. My procedure has gradually evolved over the years but I didn't do anything differently this time than I usually do. I've had some pretty good results before, but this one was really over-the-moon.

I think that the biggest key is starting with good components. The Dyad rim that i used, for example, must have been very round when I got it. That's a luck of the draw thing. Other than that, I laced the spokes, tightened them until I had about the same number of spoke threads showing and then slooowly brought the tension up 1/2 turn at a time. I knew it was going good when I only had to make very minor tension adjustments to bring all of the spokes equal on my tensiometer. Before I put the wheel on my trueing stand I held the axle in my hand and gave it a spin. I could tell then that I had a dandy.

I'm stoked!
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Old 10-09-06, 01:30 PM   #12
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Oh, that's easy, Metric Man. Clipless means you got clips. Clear?
Uhhh, that's what I thought...I think.
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Old 10-09-06, 01:45 PM   #13
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It is great you achieve something that your skills will let you do. When the end product turns out just that bit better than you expected it to be- then it is time to find the pie shop and celebrate. I am a mechanic and the only bit I do not do myself is wheel building. I will retrue wheels and replace spokes but I have a wheel builder that is excellent. When i see the final product that he comes up with- and use it- then I would rather pay him than struggle to get a wheel to his perfection, and not succeed.

Well done on the build- but where's the pics.
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Old 10-09-06, 01:52 PM   #14
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That's awesome. I'd need to apprentise to someone to learn how to build a wheel.
I just "trued" my first wheel using the brake pad appraoch. It's probably as round as an egg but I can adjust the brake pads in tight to the wheel without either side scraping.
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