Why Do We Still Call Them "Clipless" Pedals?
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Ours is a sport that is literally steeped in tradition but is always changing and growing.
Those of us who have been in it for a while, understand that there are oddities about how things are named, but we honor the riders that have gone before and use the terminologies that have evolved around them as a way of keeping the old traditions alive.
You may not know, or care who Alice B Toeclips is but many of us do, and we will continue to hold her in a place of honor, as will we continue to use the terms platform, clips and clipless.
It might be easier to pull Santa out of his fir lined suite and reindeer powered slay and get him into Thinsulate and a hydrogen powered Hummer.
Those of us who have been in it for a while, understand that there are oddities about how things are named, but we honor the riders that have gone before and use the terminologies that have evolved around them as a way of keeping the old traditions alive.
You may not know, or care who Alice B Toeclips is but many of us do, and we will continue to hold her in a place of honor, as will we continue to use the terms platform, clips and clipless.
It might be easier to pull Santa out of his fir lined suite and reindeer powered slay and get him into Thinsulate and a hydrogen powered Hummer.
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Originally Posted by WorldWind
Ours is a sport that is literally steeped in tradition but is always changing and growing.
Those of us who have been in it for a while, understand that there are oddities about how things are named, but we honor the riders that have gone before and use the terminologies that have evolved around them as a way of keeping the old traditions alive.
You may not know, or care who Alice B Toeclips is but many of us do, and we will continue to hold her in a place of honor, as will we continue to use the terms platform, clips and clipless.
It might be easier to pull Santa out of his fir lined suite and reindeer powered slay and get him into Thinsulate and a hydrogen powered Hummer.
Those of us who have been in it for a while, understand that there are oddities about how things are named, but we honor the riders that have gone before and use the terminologies that have evolved around them as a way of keeping the old traditions alive.
You may not know, or care who Alice B Toeclips is but many of us do, and we will continue to hold her in a place of honor, as will we continue to use the terms platform, clips and clipless.
It might be easier to pull Santa out of his fir lined suite and reindeer powered slay and get him into Thinsulate and a hydrogen powered Hummer.
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Originally Posted by roccobike
Who are clipless named after?
I hope no one gets the idea that I am implying that toe-clips are named after Jacky, because it’s quite the reverse. But when I think of those that were clipless back in the day, Joe Breeze comes to mind, but he was named after the passing wind. Does that muddy the water even more?
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Originally Posted by dbmcclus
Just because someone made a mistake years ago by calling these pedals "clipless", why do we continue when we know better! They are not clipless, they are clipped, as in clipped to the pedal.
Even though the terminology is already used in other sports like snow skiing, I kind of like the sound of pedal bindings. I think that describes their function better than clipless pedals.
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A Clip is a device that attaches; it also implies alignment and a supporting framework.
How could that term not be more perfect to describe what a toe clip is? And clipless would then be attachment w/out the cage.
Are you now going to want to change the moniker of the paper clip?
How could that term not be more perfect to describe what a toe clip is? And clipless would then be attachment w/out the cage.
Are you now going to want to change the moniker of the paper clip?
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getting harder to find
Originally Posted by CrossChain
Older style pedals, "platforms", often had attached a curved metal clip that you slid your foot under.
So I had to go to 3 other shops and finally found one where the owner went into the back storeroom, rummaged through boxes & found the last set of toe clips. He didn't even have them out in the showroom...
Have not had similar problems at my LBS here in the states.
Am considering have my feet shortened so I can wear those cool clipless shoes...how much difference do toes make anyway on a bike?
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Originally Posted by WorldWind
A Clip is a device that attaches; it also implies alignment and a supporting framework.
How could that term not be more perfect to describe what a toe clip is? And clipless would then be attachment w/out the cage.
Are you now going to want to change the moniker of the paper clip?
How could that term not be more perfect to describe what a toe clip is? And clipless would then be attachment w/out the cage.
Are you now going to want to change the moniker of the paper clip?
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Every time I explain clipless pedals to someone, I have to say.. they are actually clipped in.. but we call them clipless. Kinda ridic.
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Originally Posted by mlh122
my wife says its dumb they are called clipless and thus calls them clippies, actually the people at the LBS knew exactly what she was talking about, they probably laughed at us later though. but i agree "clippies" or "clippy pedals" makes more sense than clipless, there's lots of things named that way though... give me a minute to think of one...ok i can't think of any examples but there are lots im sure!!
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We don't "clip" in, we "click" in. I like "click pedals", and would consider calling platforms and clip&straps with the name "clickless" pedals.
Why clipless? Because of glorious Tradition. Same reason we English speakers didn't much adopt metrics. (By Heaven, the length of jolly King George's "foot" be good enough for any of you buggers.)
Cycling does have a Glorious Tradition that reaches down through us....excepting maybe you carbonfiber types. It's nice to keep a few namesakes around...including "clipless pedals". Certainly, we don't want to keep all traditions.....like those horrible tasting plastic bottles and baggy butt wool/real chamois shorts I recall from my newbie days.
Let's not give in totally to the "metric minded" !
Pretty rousing stuff actually.
Why clipless? Because of glorious Tradition. Same reason we English speakers didn't much adopt metrics. (By Heaven, the length of jolly King George's "foot" be good enough for any of you buggers.)
Cycling does have a Glorious Tradition that reaches down through us....excepting maybe you carbonfiber types. It's nice to keep a few namesakes around...including "clipless pedals". Certainly, we don't want to keep all traditions.....like those horrible tasting plastic bottles and baggy butt wool/real chamois shorts I recall from my newbie days.
Let's not give in totally to the "metric minded" !
Pretty rousing stuff actually.
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A Clip is a device that attaches
to quote "A Clip is a device that attaches"....
If this is true, does that mean that a clipless is a device that does not attach?
If this is true, does that mean that a clipless is a device that does not attach?
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Originally Posted by WorldWind
Are you now going to want to change the moniker of the paper clip?
Staple = A clipless paperclip? I like it.
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Originally Posted by edp773
Because toe clips used the name first and are still sold. Would you prefer toe clips jr. or toe clips II?
Clipless means without toe clips. Seems reasonable enough to me.
Clipless means without toe clips. Seems reasonable enough to me.
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The great thing about toe clips and cleats is that it served a number of purposes. You could spot a serious cyclist pretty quickly. A new cyclist would have toe clips but not the cleats. The serious cyclist had both.
Also, toe clips signaled intent. I recall being with a guy who was really strong. He said that I was riding well that day and why not "pick up the pace" for the end of the ride. Whilst saying this, he was leaning over and tightening his clips for a firmer contact with the pedal during an all out sprint. It was intimidating.
Also, toe clips signaled intent. I recall being with a guy who was really strong. He said that I was riding well that day and why not "pick up the pace" for the end of the ride. Whilst saying this, he was leaning over and tightening his clips for a firmer contact with the pedal during an all out sprint. It was intimidating.
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Yeah. Keep people wondering just exactly what the heck you're talking about.
By the way......what's a "road bike"? I ride my hybrids, recumbent and tandem on the road, but they're not "road bikes". Last time I bought a skinny-tired, dropped bar bike (1979) it was a "sport-touring bike" as opposed to a "touring bike" or "racing bike", etc. And, that bike had toe clips (and straps, but no cleats on my feet.)
One last thing: If all my bikes use tubes with their tires, why aren't they "tubular tires"? As opposed to "tubeless"?
By the way......what's a "road bike"? I ride my hybrids, recumbent and tandem on the road, but they're not "road bikes". Last time I bought a skinny-tired, dropped bar bike (1979) it was a "sport-touring bike" as opposed to a "touring bike" or "racing bike", etc. And, that bike had toe clips (and straps, but no cleats on my feet.)
One last thing: If all my bikes use tubes with their tires, why aren't they "tubular tires"? As opposed to "tubeless"?
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Yeah - but tossing a WHOLE INCH of perfectly good ham away for no good reason?
What are you guys - nuts?
What are you guys - nuts?
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You Are Correct Sir
Originally Posted by WorldWind
Clearly you have never used cleats and toe clips.