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    Move that thread!

    Just curious (as usual), but am I the only one who finds it odd that certain threads get moved based on their content and others don't? Recently the "What's Your Favorite Brand of Beer?" thread got moved to another sub-forum. Seems there was someone complaining about the thread..."I'm sorry, but why is this thread on the BF?" It just kind of makes me wonder what triggers such a move. We can have threads that talk all day about cigarette smoking and quitting...or we can even have a "What the heck?" thread and those seem to get left alone. Probably just a burr in someone's chamois.....

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    It's very irritating. No one was bothering anyone; the discussion was civil, and who the hell cares if it's "ON TOPIC"? Geesh!
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    where did it go?

    Perhaps it should have been 'poll'?

    So where did the thread go? Has it dropped into cyberspace never to be found again?

    Do you KNOW that someone complained and that is why it got 'moved' or disappeared or whatever? I guess someone could take offense although it is their choice as to whether they read a thread or not.

    I guess I don't really care - if someone is compulsive enough to need to monitor every thread among the thousands here on BF, then let them spend their time doing it...although Lord knows that if that same person is really trying to monitor content on BF 50+ forum, then they're setting themselves up for a long period of work that will NEVER end!

    Obviously content rules are applied (whatever those may be - I'm sure there are codes of such somewhere on BF) but civility rules don't get the same attention. The reason we get so many folks posting to this forum is the remarkable civility of discourse (if I may go so far with the description) where flaming is extremely rare. I'm only willing to post to Commuter and Touring besides this one - would like to be able to engage in the Advocacy forum but the strident extremism and lack of tolerance keeps me from participating.
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    Naw, it is simple - 2 explanations.

    1. The title - if you have a title, "What Beer do 50+'rs" like after you bicycle," it likely won't get moved. If it is "What Beer Do you LIke" it likely will.

    2. Being a moderator gives one a sense of power, I guess. And moving threads is one way of demonstrating that power. It is just basic human nature - "Hey, I can move threads, therefore, I must be an important person in this world." "To demonstrate that, I will move one now and then, just to remind folks." And don't forget, we have a moderator or two who sort of hate the 50+ forum!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital Gee
    It's very irritating. No one was bothering anyone; the discussion was civil, and who the hell cares if it's "ON TOPIC"? Geesh!
    Job justification...... I think they have a quota they must fill. Kind of like traffic cops. Just relabel it and Viola! An official 50 plus forum thread.
    Carpe who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DnvrFox
    And don't forget, we have a moderator or two who sort of hate the 50+ forum!
    boy, somebody really needs a life: why, oh why, would someone bear a grudge against the 50+ forum?

    Or perhaps I'll withdraw that question because it may stir the sleeping giant, wake the dozing dog, irritate the snoozing 'gator & more threads will be moved...

    I'll simply state in defense that in my household this is my week to take all blame for the injustices of the universe and reassure Dnvr, Dauphin & DeeGee that all of this is my fault. This should clarify the situation for each of you and you can just take your resentment out on me....

    But next week someone else gets to take the fall.
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    I also refer to it as "The Wyatt Erp Syndrome".
    Carpe who?

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    "Burr in the someone's chamois". I love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by centexwoody
    boy, somebody really needs a life: why, oh why, would someone bear a grudge against the 50+ forum?
    It is because we are just SO charming!
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    dauphin should have titled this thread, "Move that 50+ thread". He didn't, so it will probably get moved....
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    It's like doing seventh grade all over again.

    I think the 50+ forum could run quite smoothly on its own without the need for moderators.
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    By the way, where did the thread go, anyway? Is it just me, or shouldn't there be something telling people where to find it?

    It's just so stupid. I mean, in the big picture, does it really matter if a thread "belongs" somewhere? This one was doing just fine all by itself until one knucklehead decided to question it. Geesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital Gee
    By the way, where did the thread go, anyway? Is it just me, or shouldn't there be something telling people where to find it?

    It's just so stupid. I mean, in the big picture, does it really matter if a thread "belongs" somewhere? This one was doing just fine all by itself until one knucklehead decided to question it. Geesh.

    Can you tell I'm in a testy mood?
    If you click on it, you end up in FOO, the potter's field for miscreant threads.
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    Grin and beer it.

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    It's sad that anyone could be small minded enough to be offended by a beer thread. Especially on a 50+ forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DnvrFox
    If you click on it, you end up in FOO, the potter's field for miscreant threads.
    And what does "FOO" mean?
    "Far Out Opinions?"
    "Fetch Other Onion?"
    "Freaky Orange Orangutan?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
    And what does "FOO" mean?
    "Far Out Opinions?"
    "Fetch Other Onion?"
    "Freaky Orange Orangutan?"

    Help a poor isolated, sheltered, not so worldly, who doesn't drink beer, but I enjoy a martini now and then, pastor out!
    Okay, just keep in mind - you asked for this!

    http://www.zvon.org/tmRFC/RFC3092/Output/chapter2.html

    foo /foo/

    1. interj. Term of disgust.

    2. Used very generally as a sample name for absolutely anything, esp.
    programs and files (esp. scratch files).

    3. First on the standard list of metasyntactic variables used in
    syntax examples (bar, baz, qux, quux, corge, grault, garply,
    waldo, fred, plugh, xyzzy, thud). [JARGON]

    When used in connection with `bar' it is generally traced to the
    WW II era Army slang acronym FUBAR (`****ed Up Beyond All
    Repair'), later modified to foobar. Early versions of the Jargon
    File [JARGON] interpreted this change as a post-war
    bowdlerization, but it now seems more likely that FUBAR was itself
    a derivative of `foo' perhaps influenced by German `furchtbar'
    (terrible) - `foobar' may actually have been the original form.

    For, it seems, the word `foo' itself had an immediate prewar
    history in comic strips and cartoons. In the 1938 Warner Brothers
    cartoon directed by Robert Clampett, "The Daffy Doc", a very early
    version of Daffy Duck holds up a sign saying "SILENCE IS FOO!"
    `FOO' and `BAR' also occurred in Walt Kelly's "Pogo" strips. The
    earliest documented uses were in the surrealist "Smokey Stover"
    comic strip by Bill Holman about a fireman. This comic strip
    appeared in various American comics including "Everybody's"
    between about 1930 and 1952. It frequently included the word
    "FOO" on license plates of cars, in nonsense sayings in the
    background of some frames such as "He who foos last foos best" or
    "Many smoke but foo men chew", and had Smokey say "Where there's
    foo, there's fire". Bill Holman, the author of the strip, filled
    it with odd jokes and personal contrivances, including other
    nonsense phrases such as "Notary Sojac" and "1506 nix nix".
    According to the Warner Brothers Cartoon Companion [.' href="chapter6.html#WBCC">WBCC] Holman
    claimed to have found the word "foo" on the bottom of a Chinese
    figurine. This is plausible; Chinese statuettes often have
    apotropaic inscriptions, and this may have been the Chinese word
    `fu' (sometimes transliterated `foo'), which can mean "happiness"
    when spoken with the proper tone (the lion-dog guardians flanking
    the steps of many Chinese restaurants are properly called "fu
    dogs") [PERS]. English speakers' reception of Holman's `foo'
    nonsense word was undoubtedly influenced by Yiddish `feh' and
    English `fooey' and `fool'. [JARGON, .' href="chapter6.html#FOLDOC">FOLDOC]

    Holman's strip featured a firetruck called the Foomobile that rode
    on two wheels. The comic strip was tremendously popular in the
    late 1930s, and legend has it that a manufacturer in Indiana even
    produced an operable version of Holman's Foomobile. According to
    the Encyclopedia of American Comics [EAC], `Foo' fever swept the
    U.S., finding its way into popular songs and generating over 500
    `Foo Clubs.' The fad left `foo' references embedded in popular
    culture (including the couple of appearances in Warner Brothers
    cartoons of 1938-39) but with their origins rapidly forgotten.
    [JARGON]

    One place they are known to have remained live is in the U.S.
    military during the WWII years. In 1944-45, the term `foo
    fighters' [ particularly FF] was in use by radar operators for the kind of
    mysterious or spurious trace that would later be called a UFO (the
    older term resurfaced in popular American usage in 1995 via the
    name of one of the better grunge-rock bands [BFF]). Informants
    connected the term to the Smokey Stover strip [PERS].

    The U.S. and British militaries frequently swapped slang terms
    during the war. Period sources reported that `FOO' became a
    semi-legendary subject of WWII British-army graffiti more or less
    equivalent to the American Kilroy [WORDS]. Where British troops
    went, the graffito "FOO was here" or something similar showed up.
    Several slang dictionaries aver that FOO probably came from
    Forward Observation Officer, but this (like the contemporaneous
    "FUBAR") was probably a backronym [JARGON]. Forty years later,
    Paul Dickson's excellent book "Words" [WORDS] traced "Foo" to an
    unspecified British naval magazine in 1946, quoting as follows:

    "Mr. Foo is a mysterious Second World War product, gifted with
    bitter omniscience and sarcasm."

    Earlier versions of the Jargon File suggested the possibility that
    hacker usage actually sprang from "FOO, Lampoons and Parody", the
    title of a comic book first issued in September 1958, a joint
    project of Charles and Robert Crumb. Though Robert Crumb (then in
    his mid-teens) later became one of the most important and
    influential artists in underground comics, this venture was hardly
    a success; indeed, the brothers later burned most of the existing
    copies in disgust. The title FOO was featured in large letters on
    the front cover. However, very few copies of this comic actually
    circulated, and students of Crumb's `oeuvre' have established that
    this title was a reference to the earlier Smokey Stover comics.
    The Crumbs may also have been influenced by a short-lived Canadian
    parody magazine named `Foo' published in 1951-52. [JARGON]

    An old-time member reports that in the 1959 "Dictionary of the
    TMRC Language", compiled at TMRC (the Tech Model Railroad Club at
    MIT) there was an entry for Foo. The current on-line version, in
    which "Foo" is the only word coded to appear red, has the
    following [TMRC]:

    Foo: The sacred syllable (FOO MANI PADME HUM); to be spoken
    only when under obligation to commune with the Deity. Our first
    obligation is to keep the Foo Counters turning.

    This definition used Bill Holman's nonsense word, then only two
    decades old and demonstrably still live in popular culture and
    slang, to make a "ha ha only serious" analogy with esoteric
    Tibetan Buddhism. Today's hackers would find it difficult to
    resist elaborating a joke like that, and it is not likely 1959's
    were any less susceptible. [JARGON]
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    Denver, as my M.S. daughter would say: "TMI" "Too Much Information" Thanks! But did anyone notice the "Beer" thread somehow migrated back. Some moderator must have had a change of heart. Or--- a moderator who likes 50+, and outranks the moderators who do not like 50+, moved the thread back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
    Denver, as my M.S. daughter would say: "TMI" "Too Much Information" Thanks! But did anyone notice the "Beer" thread somehow migrated back. Some moderator must have had a change of heart. Or--- a moderator who likes 50+, and outranks the moderators who do not like 50+, moved the thread back?
    No it didn't.

    What is your favorite brand of beer?

    "Bike Forums > The Lounge > Foo "

    You must have it confused with the newer "official" 50+ beer thread.

    What is the Official "Fifty Plus (50+)" Beer?
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