I just bought some Canari tights on sale from Nashbar. They have a chamois and are not the bib type. Cost me something like $39.95. Wore them for the first time yesterday and .....the drawstring snapped in the back of the tights and the stitching at the chamois pulled away from the crotch area. They fit perfectly but are not at all comfortable. The alleged chamois is sort of a big flat diaper thing. Anyway, I've contacted Nashbar via e-mail and am awaiting a reply. Any suggestions for better tights? I think I am going to be looking for bib tights.