Remember?? the old days
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Remember?? the old days
Anyone remember the old days riding a 10 speed for thousands of miles no flats, no broken chains no broken anything. Are the bikes and hardware getting cheaper or are there more worry warts out there now. Between my 2 - 10 speeds I went through and a few Stingrays which I think I pioneered Mountain Biking with in the 70's I never even had a flat. I used to swap out tires for different riding conditions and seasons. Chopped a few bikes. Stripped my bikes down to frame and painted them. Made a few single speed wheelie machines!! Brakeless of course. Riding in water, mud, crashes, this, that, no problems at all. Are the new road bike that fragile? I have a Trek 7100 Hybrid that I have been riding for a few years now and it's a tough bike. Do I need to worry about the fragility of the new road bike I am getting???
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What road bike are you getting?
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Are you getting it on Saturday?
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tonphil1960, it depends on what you have in mind for the new bicycle. Keep in mind you probably no longer weigh seventy-five pounds, so that will also have an impact on durability.
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The most notable shift (no pun intended) toward fragility is the chain. The narrower chains just don't last as long as their ancestors from the ten speed (five cog) era.
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In collage--years and years ago--almost everybody commuted by bike. Some people rode fancy 10 speeds with nice light wheels. I rode a Schwinn Continental which was built like a 40 lb tank. When I got into the inevitable collision with another bike, their bike was usually bent up while mine was still ticking.
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Unless you are into racing or maximizing performance at all costs, avoid a feather-light bike. My 10kg Bianchi and 11kg Capos are durable, practical, and light enough for all normal purposes. I don't miss the "good old days" -- I ride them!
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Originally Posted by tonphil1960
Anyone remember the old days riding a 10 speed for thousands of miles no flats, no broken chains no broken anything.
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I remember a couple of flats back in the good old days,1960's as a kid. I learned how to patch a tube by watching the guy at the gas/service station fix the flat on my bike. Remember when car tires had tubes?
My road bike is pretty light and it is 14 years old with thousands of miles. It did get a new rear shifter (plus upgrade to 9 speed) when the old shifter wore out.
As far as I am concerned, many road bikes are just as strong as most mountain and hybrid bikes.
My road bike is pretty light and it is 14 years old with thousands of miles. It did get a new rear shifter (plus upgrade to 9 speed) when the old shifter wore out.
As far as I am concerned, many road bikes are just as strong as most mountain and hybrid bikes.
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if you're buying a bike new for 600 or more, no I'd guess. Used ???? I'm impressed with most road bikes sold at LBSs. I DO remember the old days. The new days are better,on every level ,the bikes and most certainly the tires that is.
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Maxx,
Deal? What Deal ???? I know the law, wasn't it I that wrote it, and the law says ,,
Bust the Deal Face the Wheel !!!!!!!!! Gulag, Gulag, Gulag
T
Deal? What Deal ???? I know the law, wasn't it I that wrote it, and the law says ,,
Bust the Deal Face the Wheel !!!!!!!!! Gulag, Gulag, Gulag
T
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Oh God....The Old Days?
Over tightend cotters on cranks, impossible to remove freewheels on 5 speeds, ALL STEEL Construction. RUST! (Sorry I live in the Salt Belt in NY State) Yes, I had a lot of fun on my Schwinns, Huffys and god know what brand name import in the early 70's. I think the parts and the control we have on a bicycle today are much much better. I do miss seeing someone that really know how to shift a bike with friction shifters of any sort. There are many things that I miss, but there are many more great things to praise on some of the new technology that has come into cycling in the past 20 years.
Now if I could just pry out those old batteries out of the Tank Horn on that old Schwinn......
Chris
Over tightend cotters on cranks, impossible to remove freewheels on 5 speeds, ALL STEEL Construction. RUST! (Sorry I live in the Salt Belt in NY State) Yes, I had a lot of fun on my Schwinns, Huffys and god know what brand name import in the early 70's. I think the parts and the control we have on a bicycle today are much much better. I do miss seeing someone that really know how to shift a bike with friction shifters of any sort. There are many things that I miss, but there are many more great things to praise on some of the new technology that has come into cycling in the past 20 years.
Now if I could just pry out those old batteries out of the Tank Horn on that old Schwinn......
Chris
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Originally Posted by tonphil1960
Maxx,
Deal? What Deal ???? I know the law, wasn't it I that wrote it, and the law says ,,
Bust the Deal Face the Wheel !!!!!!!!! Gulag, Gulag, Gulag
T
Deal? What Deal ???? I know the law, wasn't it I that wrote it, and the law says ,,
Bust the Deal Face the Wheel !!!!!!!!! Gulag, Gulag, Gulag
T
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Originally Posted by ang1sgt
Oh God....The Old Days?
Over tightend cotters on cranks, impossible to remove freewheels on 5 speeds, ALL STEEL Construction. RUST! (Sorry I live in the Salt Belt in NY State) Yes, I had a lot of fun on my Schwinns, Huffys and god know what brand name import in the early 70's. I think the parts and the control we have on a bicycle today are much much better. I do miss seeing someone that really know how to shift a bike with friction shifters of any sort. There are many things that I miss, but there are many more great things to praise on some of the new technology that has come into cycling in the past 20 years.
Now if I could just pry out those old batteries out of the Tank Horn on that old Schwinn......
Chris
Over tightend cotters on cranks, impossible to remove freewheels on 5 speeds, ALL STEEL Construction. RUST! (Sorry I live in the Salt Belt in NY State) Yes, I had a lot of fun on my Schwinns, Huffys and god know what brand name import in the early 70's. I think the parts and the control we have on a bicycle today are much much better. I do miss seeing someone that really know how to shift a bike with friction shifters of any sort. There are many things that I miss, but there are many more great things to praise on some of the new technology that has come into cycling in the past 20 years.
Now if I could just pry out those old batteries out of the Tank Horn on that old Schwinn......
Chris
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Originally Posted by John E
I have only one bike with cottered cranks. Everything else either came with cotterless or got converted by me or by a previous owner. Components have improved over the years, but indexed shifting offers little if any benefit on the rear shifter and a huge penalty on the front, where it removes the ability to feather the cage position. I do concur that freehub/cassette systems are superior to screw-on freewheels, but not enough to make me rush out and replace everything I own. I also refuse to use period brake pads and cables, preferring salmon KoolStops and low-compression housings for safety reasons.
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My friction shifters helped immensely with climbing mountains last week. I was able to remove my Campagnolo rear derailleur and replace it with a Shimano MTB rear derailleur which could handle the 34 tooth cog on my Megarange freewheel. Try that with indexed shifters!
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Originally Posted by tonphil1960
Anyone remember the old days riding a 10 speed
In MY good old days, we rode single speeds, and if you were lucky a Hercules English bike with a 3 speed Sturmey Archer.
Ten speeds were from France, and only a few even knew about them, and lesser rode them.
But then, I am old enough to be your father!
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The bikes that stick in my mind are a 5 Speed Ross Stingray style I had, I still have the reciept for it, 39.99. I rode that bike for many, many years, it was chopped, sissy barred, made single speed, made into a dirt bike, back to road. Loved that bike. My Bro had a Raliegh 5 Speed big cushioned squared off Banana style seat, with the 6 inch or so padded Sissy bar. A buddy had an Iverson 3 speed. I then graduated to my Royce Union 10 speed " English Racer" with a Brooks saddle no less. Wish I would have saved that one to this day.
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Originally Posted by oilman_15106
It was hard to destroy a 40 pound bike.
I offered to check out a colleague at works bike as he has had it for many years. Bought it home tonight and it is an immaculate Muddy Fox MTB of about 10 years of age. It was a give away with a Ford commercial vehicle- and this colleague bought one. As I rolled it out to the car-I thought I had better check it out and rode it up the road. It felt sluggish., Then I lifted it onto the rack. That bike is heavy. Got the scales out and YEP it is a 40 lb bike. Give me my modern 24lbs Bianchi anyday.
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Originally Posted by stapfam
I offered to check out a colleague at works bike as he has had it for many years. Bought it home tonight and it is an immaculate Muddy Fox MTB of about 10 years of age. It was a give away with a Ford commercial vehicle- and this colleague bought one. As I rolled it out to the car-I thought I had better check it out and rode it up the road. It felt sluggish., Then I lifted it onto the rack. That bike is heavy. Got the scales out and YEP it is a 40 lb bike. Give me my modern 24lbs Bianchi anyday.
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Originally Posted by BluesDawg
It's not the age of that bike that makes it a 40 lb. piece of crap, it's the 40 lb. piece of crapidness of it. New 40 lb. piece of crap bikes are just as bad as old ones.
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Originally Posted by BluesDawg
My friction shifters helped immensely with climbing mountains last week. I was able to remove my Campagnolo rear derailleur and replace it with a Shimano MTB rear derailleur which could handle the 34 tooth cog on my Megarange freewheel. Try that with indexed shifters!
I just went from friction shift bar-ends to Sora brifters on my commuter. 11-34T MegaRange 8 speed, DeoreLX rear, Tiagra front, Suntour 28-38-48 crank. Everything functions quite well. So I guess I don't understand your comment about indexing with such a setup.