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Old 05-01-07, 11:24 AM   #1
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Is this a decent moutain bike?

I'm in the process of buying a mountain bike to use on some soon-to-open dirt trails in the area. I've been watching the local Craigslist and found this one:
http://dayton.craigslist.org/bik/320506305.html

In case the link doesn't work this is a Specialized Hardrock, 21 speed MRX gripshift in excellent condition.

I'm not familiar with mountain bike sizing. This one is an 18" and appears to have the relaxed geometry frame. I have a 54cm relaxed geometry road bike and a 51cm standard geometry road bike. Does the 18" sound like it might fit? The Specialized website says it has a 29" stand-over and I have a 31" inch inseam. What is the suggested clearance for stand-over on mountain bikes?

Is $148 a good price for this style bike?
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Old 05-01-07, 11:44 AM   #2
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From what I've learned while looking for a bike for my wife, a MTB frame should come in about 10cm under a roadie. For example, my LeMond is a 55cm and my Fisher a 44.cm... which is 17.5". By that, I'd say this one might be a bit big for you. I think a 2-3" standover is recommended for MTBs. All from memory and, well, you know what a 54 year old memory is like...
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Old 05-01-07, 12:04 PM   #3
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Decent bike for light duty work. Price seems a little high. No way do I believe they paid $700 for it. It appears to be a 2003 (or older) Hardrock Cr-Mo Women's model. Listed for $290 new. <edit> rigid fork and 21 speeds means this bike is several years older than I thought.
http://www.epinions.com/bicycles_200..._Cr_Mo_Women_s

I would guess a 16 or 17" would be your MTB size (have you looked at your LBS to determine your size?), but in a women's model you might get by with a larger size.

If you think you'll ever want to do anything beyond very casual offroad riding, I would suggest something else. But it would probably be a reliable, comfortable bike for very easy dirt paths.

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Old 05-01-07, 01:10 PM   #4
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Only way to check for size is to sit on it. All manufacturers size their bike differently and a Speccie 18 " is not the same as a Trek, Giant- or any other. I would say that the price is high and Couple of pointers. 21 speed. That is not a problem but Gripshift is. The crank set is definitely one of the Cheap ones and rings wear out very fast on these. It is not worth just changing rings so a new crankset would be required and if it is the one I think it is- New bottom bracket aswell.

For trail riding it will be OK but any thing remotely serious and I would look elsewhere. I still think it is overpriced though.

Edit----Forget the suspension seat post. Very cheap unit that I replaced on the Tandem after 2 months. It never did save my butt from anything.
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I'm pretty sure the $700. figure is bogus. I bought a MTB in the fall and looked at Hardrocks, the new ones aren't even $700. I see these around the Boston area for $100. or less all the time. Don't know what your budget is but take a look at the Gary Fisher bikes, I got a Wahoo (around $400.) and love it.
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I'm pretty sure the $700. figure is bogus. I bought a MTB in the fall and looked at Hardrocks, the new ones aren't even $700. I see these around the Boston area for $100. or less all the time. Don't know what your budget is but take a look at the Gary Fisher bikes, I got a Wahoo (around $400.) and love it.
Thanks for the info everyone. I think I'll go to my LBS and checkout some mountain bikes since I know zilch about them. They carry Trek and Gary Fisher. My budget is around $500 so I'm sure they will have something suitable.
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The Trek 4500 WSD and the Gary Fisher Marlin GS are female specific models right around $500. Both are similarly equipped and should be good bikes very capable of getting you started offroad and allow you to progress quite a bit toward serious offroading if you choose.
There are differences in the geometry of the two bikes which may make one fit you better than the other. Happy shopping!
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The Trek 4500 WSD and the Gary Fisher Marlin GS are female specific models right around $500. Both are similarly equipped and should be good bikes very capable of getting you started offroad and allow you to progress quite a bit toward serious offroading if you choose.
There are differences in the geometry of the two bikes which may make one fit you better than the other. Happy shopping!
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Beverly, I'll be blunt, that price is too high for that bike. It's value in Central NC is about $50 to 75, maybe $100 on a good day. Note: it has no suspension fork and converting an old bike is expensive or requires quite a bit of knowledge. A rigid fork will limit how fast you progress. I tried it and will never go back.
Consider this: Add $100 to the $148 and you've got a new Trek 820, built for trails, with a suspension fork (granted it's a low end fork). Personally, I like the recommendation to buy a new Hard Rock or the Trek 4500 mentioned before. Also, for $500, consider a Rockhopper, great frame on the Rockhopper.
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Beverly, consider the smallest frame you can fit on for a mountain bike. Like a road bike, the most important dimension is the reach, (top tube). You're probably going to want a more upright position than on a road bike, and the short top tube will help. You can get a 350mm seatpost, and more standover room is better. You can put riser bars on any bike, too. I also suggest going as lightweight as you can afford, as some cheaper mtb's go way over 30 lbs. Don't forget tires, some tires are over 2 lbs each, and light tires are around 1 pound, (knobbies). I use a semi-slick on the rear and run the front tire @ 35psi or so, for traction.
A hardtail should be fine for casual dirt use, but a suspension fork will enhance any off-road ride.
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Beverly, consider the smallest frame you can fit on for a mountain bike. Like a road bike, the most important dimension is the reach, (top tube). You're probably going to want a more upright position than on a road bike, and the short top tube will help. You can get a 350mm seatpost, and more standover room is better. You can put riser bars on any bike, too. I also suggest going as lightweight as you can afford, as some cheaper mtb's go way over 30 lbs. Don't forget tires, some tires are over 2 lbs each, and light tires are around 1 pound, (knobbies). I use a semi-slick on the rear and run the front tire @ 35psi or so, for traction.
A hardtail should be fine for casual dirt use, but a suspension fork will enhance any off-road ride.
You've been riding my bike again- No wonder the tyres are wearing out
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