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    My first mod to the LeMond

    I put a cadence sensor on the Kaitai about a year ago, so I guess that counts there

    But tonight, I took the black water bottle cage off of the Reno and added it to the Kaitai as a second.

    Then I took the two, new stainless cages I just bought and put them on the Reno!
    And, then don't match, one being matte, the other shiney. Ohmygosh, does that make me a Fred? I don't care.

    I would care had I mixed Silver & Black. No, we won't have that in *this* house

    What I do care about is that I can carry two full botttles on any given ride. Yeah!
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    I remember clearly a b&w photo I used to have of my uncle standing next to the P-38 he flew in the Pacific in ww2. The sheet metal had obvious dents, painted surfaces appeared to have big scratches, there was a shirt hung from one of the rudders (drying laundry?). There were also 3 flags painted under the canopy. That plane obviously performed well in the hands of a dedicated person...but it was far from slick looking. Actually, kind of rakish in a McHale's Navy way.

    Modifying your bike with whatever makes you go better and not being overly scrupulous about artistic merit gives you a more "real cyclist" look if looks matter.

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    I also have two bottle cages on my red Trek. They are yellow and silver. Both hold water bottles just fine.
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    Well, I for one am disappointed. How you could put mismatched water cages on your brand new bike is beyond my comprehension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital Gee
    Well, I for one am disappointed. How you could put mismatched water cages on your brand new bike is beyond my comprehension.

    There are STANDARDS, you know.
    Have to agree. If you can't find two matching ones then only put one on. For the extra liquid required on rides there are alternatives. And cafe's sell pie aswell.
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    Stainless steel? Does it get any heavier than that? Carbon, dude, carbon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrierman
    Stainless steel? Does it get any heavier than that? Carbon, dude, carbon.
    So after you buy carbon bottle cages to save 30 grams, do you fill your bottles with 20 whole ounces of ordinary water?

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    Good move. Stainless steel bottle cages are light, strong, durable, inexpensive and they won't leave black marks on your bottles like aluminum will. If the mismatch starts to bother you, replace one when you find a match later. Having two cages is far more important than having matching cages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
    So after you buy carbon bottle cages to save 30 grams, do you fill your bottles with 20 whole ounces of ordinary water?
    I use Perrier water. The carbonation in the water lightens it up quite a bit, and it tastes pretty good, too.

    Full carbonation is the only way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrierman
    Stainless steel? Does it get any heavier than that? Carbon, dude, carbon.
    Heavy? I was referring to the color not the composition.
    I mean, had I said "silver" would you have thought... No, I didn't think so.

    Actually, they're very light. I'm guessing they're aluminum (or, should you prefer, aluminium)

    I looked at them this morning as I was getting into the car. They look fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaiKaiTai
    BTW, no NFL fans here?
    Oh, I get it. Raiders. If they made a red/white/blue Patriots bike, I'd buy one.
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    Yeah, the Raiduz... I would never own a silver & black anything.

    Pats are OK... I've been a fan going back to the Grogan days (and, of course, Brady is local product)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
    So after you buy carbon bottle cages to save 30 grams, do you fill your bottles with 20 whole ounces of ordinary water?
    No way man. Like others have previously pointed out, it's way better to carry your water on your person so the bike weighs less. I also only fill each bottle only half full and save weight that way as well. I'm considering having the frame sealed and filled with helium too so the bike will seem to float. That's really important on my 28 pound in riding trim Coda. I'll give full consideration to TWL's suggestion of carrying Perrier to save a few grams too in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaiKaiTai
    Then I took the two, new stainless cages I just bought and put them on the Reno!
    And, then don't match, one being matte, the other shiney. Ohmygosh, does that make me a Fred? I don't care.
    What about posting pics so we can decide the Frediosity of this bold move?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Weak Link
    I use Perrier water. The carbonation in the water lightens it up quite a bit, and it tastes pretty good, too.

    Full carbonation is the only way to go.
    But when you belch, wouldn't the back pressure from the expelled gas counteract your forward motion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaiKaiTai
    Heavy? I was referring to the color not the composition.
    I mean, had I said "silver" would you have thought... No, I didn't think so.
    Actually, they're very light. I'm guessing they're aluminum (or, should you prefer, aluminium)
    I take back the compliment. Stainless steel water bottle cages are great. Aluminum cages work, but no class. You should be able to easily see if your cages are aluminum by the black marks they leave on your water bottles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluesDawg
    I take back the compliment. Stainless steel water bottle cages are great. Aluminum cages work, but no class. You should be able to easily see if your cages are aluminum by the black marks they leave on your water bottles.
    Or you could use black water bottles, as I do, which negativates the problem with aluminuymumunim
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaiKaiTai
    But when you belch, wouldn't the back pressure from the expelled gas counteract your forward motion?
    A truly dedicated cyclist will drill with carbonated water until he is able to expel the gas in a manner that contributes to, rather than detracts from forward motion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xlrogue
    A truly dedicated cyclist will drill with carbonated water until he is able to expel the gas in a manner that contributes to, rather than detracts from forward motion.
    Isn't it a little unsafe to ride while looking behind you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beverly
    Isn't it a little unsafe to ride while looking behind you?
    Um, I don't think that is exactly what he was getting at.

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    My Reno is mostly silver and has two matching silver water bottle cages. I'm making up for it though- I ordered some mtb platform pedals for it!!

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    I picked up some water bottles with insulated jackets at Academy for about $6 a piece, work great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Weak Link
    Um, I don't think that is exactly what he was getting at.

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    I know what he was thinking
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    Here you go... from tonight's ride. You be the judge


    After riding the Kaitai for the last 3 days, the LeMond sure felt different.
    Unbelievably responsive.
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    Tight. It's tight.

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