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Old 06-15-07, 09:39 AM   #1
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Skin Suits

I am picking up a skin suit today for time trial racing. Anyone else use one? JPPE, Red Baron, VegaVixen others?
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Lets put this question to the no bibs boys?.......

I know that this is where I draw the line. The world is just not ready.
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Lets put this question to the no bibs boys?.......

I know that this is where I draw the line. The world is just not ready.
We may have to explain it to them first. I found some pics that were really funny but would result in bansishment so here is a politically correct pic.

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Big guys in bibs can be taken care of with jerseys like hockey players. Big guys in skin suits............well, I'd still be a bowling ball.
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Hannibel Lechter had a pretty good one, if I recall...
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Finally we are discussing a product that deserves the kind of comments that were misdirected toward bibs.
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I am picking up a skin suit today for time trial racing. Anyone else use one? JPPE, Red Baron, VegaVixen others?
still have a few left over from the old days. Ride them occasionally these days, when it gets hot out along the coast. You'll find them to be the absolute most comfortable things you've ever ridden in. no pockets though...
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Hermes, is it a Voler skinsuit? I have no idea yet where to look for a women's skinsuit. VeloWear doesn't seem to have any for women.

Not that I want a full-body skinsuit like Cipo's (see attached). I'd settle for a one-piece shorts/jersey like Lance's. Just needs to be aero. And skintight. I'm afraid I'd have to have one custom-made since I'm tall and lean. I already have trouble finding jerseys that don't billow out but are long enough. Volers are the only ones I can wear.
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If you can wear Speedos on the beach and get away with it (a rarity in our age group), then you may consider wearing a skin suit.

Otherwise it would be an affront to reason and decency.
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I'm only 15 pounds or so overweight, but there ain't even a place to hide that in a skin suit. I pass......
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If you can wear Speedos on the beach and get away with it (a rarity in our age group), then you may consider wearing a skin suit.

Otherwise it would be an affront to reason and decency.
I can't speak for Hermes' swimwear but I can vouch that he'll do justice to a skinsuit, as will his lovely bride. They look like the most comfortable things EVer & I'd consider wearing one for our next TT. I'll bet I can talk cgallagh into one, too.

And you thought it was just our weather that's hot...
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Hermes, is it a Voler skinsuit? I have no idea yet where to look for a women's skinsuit. VeloWear doesn't seem to have any for women.

Not that I want a full-body skinsuit like Cipo's (see attached). I'd settle for a one-piece shorts/jersey like Lance's. Just needs to be aero. And skintight. I'm afraid I'd have to have one custom-made since I'm tall and lean. I already have trouble finding jerseys that don't billow out but are long enough. Volers are the only ones I can wear.
I just picked it up over lunch. It is a Webcor Alto Velo logo / colors team kit by Voler and I got the long sleeve version but they come in short sleeve like Lance's. Our club, www.altovelo.org orders clothing from Voler several times per year. My wife and I ordered long sleeve skin suits for delivery in August and it was by chance that AV had a men's long sleve in stock. You may be able to get a Webcor/Alto Velo skin suit. I do not know what we have in stock right now in ladies or what is available on Ebay. Most of the women in our club who TT and the Webcor pro team women wear skin suits. So clearly they are available in all sizes and designed for women.
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http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...1&d=1181929526

That is way cool, but until I can look like that in a skin suit I'll have to pass (and my days of looking like that are a long time gone).

I tried to paste the photo, but all I got was the link...sigh.
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There should be no problems with skin suits. The person wearing it does not have to look at it unless they want to look in a mirror and the person not wearing it can always look the other way if they don't like what they see.
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There should be no problems with skin suits. The person wearing it does not have to look at it unless they want to look in a mirror and the person not wearing it can always look the other way if they don't like what they see.
That's an excellent point.
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There should be no problems with skin suits. The person wearing it does not have to look at it unless they want to look in a mirror and the person not wearing it can always look the other way if they don't like what they see.
I believe it was Harry Truman who used to say the same thing about his face.
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To quote a trained observer at another disaster, "Oh, the humanity!"
If you really are 50+ and want to wear a skin suit, you MUST stand in front of the mirror and look at yourself for at least 3 minutes!
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To quote a trained observer at another disaster, "Oh, the humanity!"
If you really are 50+ and want to wear a skin suit, you MUST stand in front of the mirror and look at yourself for at least 3 minutes!
Hindenberg? My great-aunt was there. Traumatized her for life.


Swan652, go to "Advanced," then select the icon that appears to have little mountains on a yellow background ("Insert Image"), fourth from the right, lower line). Be sure to type in the entire URL. Then click "ok." Then "Preview" post. You should see the image (I think). You can always "Submit Reply," and if it doesn't appear, then "Edit" and "Delete Post."

Oh, if you were trying to link back to that image of mine, I'm not sure that'll work. But you could save it to your hard-drive, then re-attach it to your post....
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To quote a trained observer at another disaster, "Oh, the humanity!"
If you really are 50+ and want to wear a skin suit, you MUST stand in front of the mirror and look at yourself for at least 3 minutes!

You could also look at old posts from Chipcom!
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If you really are 50+ and want to wear a skin suit, you MUST stand in front of the mirror and look at yourself for at least 3 minutes!
This was from a few years ago...I'm about 4 lbs lighter now. Do I qualify?
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This was from a few years ago...I'm about 4 lbs lighter now. Do I qualify?
*thunk*

Oh, my stars! Yes! And then post another pic in your new skinsuit.
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You guys are too much but I thought it would be a funny discussion for a Friday afternoon. We have yet to hear from two renown time trialists; the Red Baron and the celebrity, JPPE. Just to return to topic for a moment while the no-bib boys look for pics…

Most race cut jerseys are just as tight fitting as a skinsuit. However, the skinsuit has very smooth low friction material that is more slippery in the air than skin and they are one piece. They have no pockets so in effect impractical for biking and ordinary racing. They are for fast competitive solo events such as time trials, triathlons, speed skating and etc.

Here are some numbers, which are guidelines only, for gains using aero equipment and will be less for slower speeds. Note that the skinsuit in a 40 K TT gives a lot of bang for the buck.

30MPH over a 40K course. Time savings for these
upgrades over 40K:

1. Drop Bars >> Riding integrated Aerobars - 4 Minutes
2. Shorts/Jersey >> Skin Suit - 2 Minutes
3. "Box Style" 32 spoke wheels >> Aero Wheels (deep front, disc rear) - 2 Minutes
5. Round Tube Frame >> Aero Frame/Fork - 1 Minute
4. Standard Road Helmet >> Aero Helmet (Louis Garneau, Giro, Bell) - 30 seconds
6. Adding Shoe Covers - 10 Seconds
Time saved over 40K with all the upgrades listed above: 9 minutes 40 seconds!

Based on this data, we currently give up 4 minutes to the competition in a 40K TT – wheels and skin suits. That is a lot of time. Even if it is half, it is still a lot.
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This was from a few years ago...I'm about 4 lbs lighter now. Do I qualify?
We have seen this one before and you will not look much different in a skinsuit. If you are going to post pics, we want new material.
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Yeah. Here's your skinsuit.
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