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Old 06-25-07, 10:22 PM   #26
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A pretty good home brewed drug is "ice", much beloved by knees. ....
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Ice and NSAIDs (naproxen is my drug of choice) is definitely a big part of my plan for future salvation. They are both miraculous ...for my back.

Knee: I had same symptoms at same time as DG (back in February). A floating miniscus tear can flare up again at the slightest strain or wrong movement. That was my problem. I had arthroscopic surgery back in february and am 100% recovered now. It might still be worth an Orthopedic exam.
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Old 06-25-07, 11:09 PM   #27
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I've been taking glucosimine for several years now and it definitely helps me. Where is the knee pain? Front or back call for raising or lowering the seat, rule of thumb that may or may not apply. Internal pain is where the glucosimine helps me. The cartilage must be getting a litle thin. Pain on the outside I'm familar with. I had a very bad case of ITB a couple years ago, I spun silly low gears to take the stress off but that actually made it worse. The ligiment was being irritated by passing over the bones and spinning faster passed it over that much more. PT and streching helped, not really cured but I can live with it. Root cause of the ITB I finally figgered out on my own was poor pedaling form, my knees sticking way out to the side. Made a very conscious effort to hold knees in and while its not perfect I'm still going, not as fast or as far as I'd like but still going. There's a line in a movie "a mans got to know his limitations" it kinda sucks but I guess it applies. When I try to do too much too soon I get in trouble and set myself back. I feel your pain. I've found that for myself I can't hammer the body in to shape any more, but must coax it along. I'm back to baby steps, which sucks, but I am still steppin.
Good luck with your knee, don't give up, don't push too hard
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Old 06-25-07, 11:16 PM   #28
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Well, my knee is completely pain free tonight, and didn't hurt on my little recovery ride today, and didn't flare up afterwards whatsoever.

I don't think yesterday was a fluke, but I do think perhaps I've been pushing myself just a little too hard. Since I had so few miles in February and March, and even April, and since the new bike has been so much fun, I've done quite a few more miles than in the recent past.

And, I think I've been consciously trying to increase my speed AND my distance, but again, perhaps too quickly. I've been ignoring the 10% increase rule.

Several have asked me where the pain is, etc. If I place my left hand on the kneecap so that the palm of my hand is on the kneecap, and my fingers are slightly spread, then the pain is located just under my first finger. Sort of below the kneecap, and slightly toward the inside of the leg. It's kind of the same feeling one gets when one twists a joint inappropriately.

I also get a little right knee pain every once in a while, btw. This has never been too severe and has never impaired my riding or walking or sleeping.

So either I pushed a little too hard, mashed a little too much, hammered too long, or have sloppy pedal technique. I'm going to do some strengthening exercises, AND back off a little. I realize I was trying to catch up with my annual mileage goal, as though it was carved in stone.

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Old 06-26-07, 12:25 AM   #29
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and finally was able to fall asleep wearing the drug store knee brace.
Please, don't do this. I was told by a doctor that it can lead to blood clots in your leg...

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Plus it was fun getting back on the old bike after a couple of months. the wide tires (32mm) gives me much more freedom to go over potholes and such. It's a fun bike -- why did I ever move on?
This is one of the many reasons why I bought my Rivendell Rambouillet. I can have a road bike "feel" AND wide tires. I'm running 35mm Paselas, and there's room for 37's! The new generation road bikes all have short reach brakes which limit you to 28mm tires, max.

As has already been mentioned, try using the Cypress set-up on your Roubaix...in terms of saddle, seat height, and seat set back.
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