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Old 07-10-07, 10:44 AM   #1
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wind, mag, fluid... what trainer?

The wife is wanting to use a trainer, vice go to the local gym.

I see there are wind, magnetic, and fluid trainers out there. The wind trainer makes sense if the wind can be directed to the cyclist to keep them cool.

What are the advantages and disadvantages?

Any recommendations?
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The wind trainers do not offer very good resistance and are often paired with a friction unit to make it harder to pedal. That also means you don't get a very good road like feel. The Fluid trainers are by far the best and you can't go wrong with a Kurt Kenetic for the money. I have used multiple trainers both for the off season and for warmig up before races. The CycleOps trainers are good too but Kurt Kenetic has awesome warranty and a no leak guarantee. Bicycle Magazine rated it the Editors Pick last year for best trainer. The fluid resistance gets harder as you pedal and the large flywheel means that when you stop pedaling it will coast like you are on the road. Of all of the trainers I have used it is the best at giving you a road like feel.

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I have a Kurt Kinetic trainer. It's super quiet and I've never had a problem with it, except that I hold trainers in great contempt and I hate Coach Troy.

But I digress.
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Old 07-10-07, 11:42 AM   #4
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I hold trainers in great contempt....

+1 To me this is like asking, "Would you rather I punch you in the stomach or ribs?"
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Disagree with the above. Windtrainers are no 3 dimensional equivalent for the road and are boring, But...........

You can "sweat buckets" (Coach Troy and I have a love/hate thing going on) and be very structured in strength building during the winter, after dark, rainy days....and they're good for recovering from an injury because you can so much better control your "riding" conditions and stop whenever.

If your wife wants to spin at home, why not? As long as she structures her work-out and just doesn't spin aimlessly in front of CNN. I've spent many hours out in the garage with the rain on the roof sweating to CNN or some old movie or under the iPod.

Kurt and Cyclops are top end trainers, but to start with, something cheaper would do fine, too. Purely fan dependent wind trainers are sort of passe.....besides, they're whooshy noisy and not so road feelish. If you want a breeze, and believe me you do, then put a fan in front of the trainer. Distraction of tv/dvd/iPod is helpful. Your wife may miss the social connection of sweating with others, but then you turn to Coach Troy and his merry band of self-flagellators.
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I dug out the old wind trainer last night because serious lightning started flashing just when I wanted to go out for a ride. So I cranked away under the canopy on the back patio while the rain pattered above and thunder claps came all around. But it reminded me how much I hate that whiney high pitched noise. Go with something quiet.
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Take a look at the "1 UP" trainers at http://www.1upusa.com/ and this site has the best price for Kurt Kinetic trainers.....with free shipping.
My wife and have endured 4 completely trouble free years with our Kurt Kinetic "road machine" trainers.
We use Continental "trainer" (yellow) rear tire for even quieter (no tire squeal) and smoother training sessions.
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While we're on this topic, I have a new CF bike and I wonder what it would be like when I finally go with the trainer (later this year). Is it harmful on a CF bike to hook it up with a Kurt Kinetic?
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While we're on this topic, I have a new CF bike and I wonder what it would be like when I finally go with the trainer (later this year). Is it harmful on a CF bike to hook it up with a Kurt Kinetic?
I put the Madone on my trainer without any problems. I just exchanged the QR skewer on the bike with the one that came with my trainer. No part of the bike touches the trainer except the special skewer.
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[QUOTE=The Weak Link]I have a Kurt Kinetic trainer. It's super quiet and I've never had a problem with it.
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A quiet trainer is a good trainer. I tried to save money and mine sounds like there's a train rattling through the house.
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I see roller trainers aren't on your list of options.
This is good....
In a fit of monkey madness a few years ago, I bought one of these contraptions. What a painful experience.
If you can track stand a bike for several minutes on glaze ice, this is the trainer for you.
To your original question, the reps I talked to all recommended fluid. I then got a Cycleops.
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Wind trainers are made to order for us 50+ folks.

Most of us have already lost most of our hearing so the noise doesn't bother us like it does younger riders.
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Old 07-10-07, 03:14 PM   #13
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I see roller trainers aren't on your list of options.
This is good....
In a fit of monkey madness a few years ago, I bought one of these contraptions. What a painful experience.
If you can track stand a bike for several minutes on glaze ice, this is the trainer for you.
To your original question, the reps I talked to all recommended fluid. I then got a Cycleops.
I used rollers for years... had a regular routine that amounted to a commute home from work that ended with 30 minutes of high speed spinning while watching M*A*S*H reruns. (it was on 5 times a day back then) The rollers really do help you smooth out the cadence. I got to where I could do the rollers hands free and relax. Of course back in the day I also was car free... so I was pretty dedicated.

She wants nothing to do with rollers... she just wants to spin on her time, when she feels like it.

Thanks for the info folks... I'll take the wind trainer off the list and consider your recommendations for the others.
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Old 07-10-07, 09:08 PM   #14
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Blackburn Ultra is very quiet, uses centrifical force for the resistance. Have also used Minoura Mag and it is quiet.

Tip for trainer use: If the bike is going to be used off the trainer for any serious riding, get a cheapo rear wheel and matching cheap tire to put on the bike. All the trainers just seem to wear tires out really fast.
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Old 07-11-07, 04:08 PM   #15
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I had a secret wish for rollers for about 30 years, during most of which time I wasn't riding. When I started riding again recently, I found a set in the local classifieds for cheep. My husband was dubious, but said, "OK, you'll either figure that out or kill yourself trying."

I'm hooked, but still not out of the hallway.
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I have a set of Kreitler Rollers - with fan and front wheel stand - that I bought 20 years ago. If you can get the hang of rollers they do make you ride smoother.
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Another 1up user here......but would rather ride on the road.
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