Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Fifty Plus (50+) Share the victories, challenges, successes and special concerns of bicyclists 50 and older. Especially useful for those entering or reentering bicycling.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-31-07, 06:04 PM   #1
SaiKaiTai
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SaiKaiTai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 2,990
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
It's a Brooks in a Box



And out, too...


Got it on Saturday -too late for my Saturday ride (which was a brute, btw... in a good way)- so I threw it on the bike on Sunday and took it out for its maiden voyage Monday evening. After 12 miles what my first impression? The saddle is hard. Damned hard... and incredibly slippery. The nose was a bit down in front and just kept sliding all over the place. Granted, I haven't Proofrided it or anything... just straight out of the box and on to the bike. I don't want to grease it up until I know I'm not returning it.

But when I got my butt in -what I think is- the right spot, I knew it. You can really feel the ol' sit bones as 2 discreet points of contact. But oddly enough, the saddle just feels -I don't know- right? It is comfortable in a weird sort of way. You are perched on it and the legs swing completely free. There is no wasted energy going into flexing a cushy saddle. You push down on the pedal and the power just goes straight to the road. I feel more efficient. Why, I hardly even noticed the extra weight

I played with the adjustment a little just a bit ago. Obviously it still needs some tweaking - the nose looks too high. Feels OK but I know I should have it a little more level. Stupid Bontrager post seems to have no level, though; it's up at the nose or down. We'll see how that plays out.

Looks pretty darned good on that bike, though.
SaiKaiTai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-07, 06:33 PM   #2
Skipper
Senior Member
 
Skipper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Limburger capitol of the USA
Bikes: Trek 1500, Trek 7300FX, Cannondale RT3000
Posts: 361
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have all of my Brooks saddles set slightly nose high. Everything seems to just fall into the right place with the saddle set up that way.

+1 on the Bontrager seat posts. I wish they had a bit finer adjustment.

Enjoy your Brick, er, Brooks.


Edit: If it feels OK, why should you have it a little more level?
Skipper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-07, 06:33 PM   #3
Beverly
Senior Member ??
 
Beverly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Englewood,Ohio
Bikes: 2007 Trek Madone 5.0 WSD - 2007 Trek 4300 WSD - 2008 Trek 520 - 2014 Catrike Trail
Posts: 5,094
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
It looks great on the bike!

I had the same problem with mine being slippery. Like you I haven't put anything on it but since I don't plan on returning it I probably should do it and see if the slickness goes away. It's on my older Trek and I don't ride it too often.
__________________
=============================================================

Enjoy the little things in life, for one day you may look back and realize they were the big things.
-- Antonio Smith
Beverly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-07, 07:27 PM   #4
Old School
Senior Member
 
Old School's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Marin County, CA
Bikes: Trek 5500 OCLV, Trek Fuel EX 9
Posts: 1,179
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Brooks just has that "old school" look -- doesn't look quite right with a newer style bike. Sorry for the blasphemy...
Old School is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-07, 07:30 PM   #5
BluesDawg
just keep riding
 
BluesDawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Milledgeville, Georgia
Bikes: 2015 Specialized AWOL Comp frameset (custom build), 2015 Zukas custom road, 2014 Specialized Crave Pro 29, 2003 KHS Milano Tandem, 1986 Nishiki Cadence rigid MTB, 1980ish Fuji S-12S
Posts: 13,241
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28 Post(s)
The slickness will gradually lessen as you ride and sweat on it. I can't remember noticing the Proofide making that happen sooner or later. That seat does look a little more upward slanted than I put mine when new. At any rate, you'll be able to move it closer to level as the slickness subsides. It does look good on there. Welcome to the cult.

Last edited by BluesDawg; 07-31-07 at 07:48 PM.
BluesDawg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-07, 07:42 PM   #6
Beverly
Senior Member ??
 
Beverly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Englewood,Ohio
Bikes: 2007 Trek Madone 5.0 WSD - 2007 Trek 4300 WSD - 2008 Trek 520 - 2014 Catrike Trail
Posts: 5,094
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BluesDawg View Post
The slickness will gradually lessen as you ride and sweat on it. I can't remember noticing that the Proofide making that happen sooner or later. That seat does look a little more upward slanted than I put mine when new. At any rate, you'll be able to move it closer to level as the slickness subsides. It does look good on there. Welcome to the cult.
Women don't sweat How will I ever get rid of the slickness
__________________
=============================================================

Enjoy the little things in life, for one day you may look back and realize they were the big things.
-- Antonio Smith
Beverly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-07, 07:43 PM   #7
Old School
Senior Member
 
Old School's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Marin County, CA
Bikes: Trek 5500 OCLV, Trek Fuel EX 9
Posts: 1,179
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beverly View Post
Women don't sweat How will I ever get rid of the slickness
Just douse it with your water bottle before the next ride!
Old School is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-07, 07:47 PM   #8
BluesDawg
just keep riding
 
BluesDawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Milledgeville, Georgia
Bikes: 2015 Specialized AWOL Comp frameset (custom build), 2015 Zukas custom road, 2014 Specialized Crave Pro 29, 2003 KHS Milano Tandem, 1986 Nishiki Cadence rigid MTB, 1980ish Fuji S-12S
Posts: 13,241
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beverly View Post
Women don't sweat How will I ever get rid of the slickness
You can "glow" it away.
BluesDawg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-07, 08:23 PM   #9
Nermal
Senior Member
 
Nermal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Farmington, NM
Bikes: Giant Cypress SX
Posts: 2,066
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
My first impression of my first Brooks was exactly the same - hard and slick. It was immediately more comfortable than the old saddle. That is, it was less uncomfortable than the old, and somewhat uncomfortalbe in a different kind of way. After 150 miles, I never noticed the saddle again.
__________________
Some people are like a Slinky ... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.
Nermal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-07, 08:45 PM   #10
ticwanos
Ol' Paint
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Garland, Texas and Tahlequah, OK
Bikes: '68 Raleigh Grand Prix,'71 Schwinn Super Sport, '73 Schwinn Paramount, '83 Schwinn Super Sport, '84(?) Univega Gran Sprint, '89 Schwinn Waterford Paramount
Posts: 393
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Actually, I find the slickness to be a desireable trait. I can easily move around on the saddle in response to different riding conditions. Why would you want to get rid of that?
__________________
"In my cathedral,
colored glass holds no candle to
sunlight through trees."
-- Leon Briggs
ticwanos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-07, 08:56 PM   #11
Terrierman
Senior Member
 
Terrierman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SWMO
Bikes:
Posts: 3,179
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 112 Post(s)
I think the black saddle nicely sets off the blue bike. If you like it after riding it the first time, I predict you are a convert and may soon be preaching the gospel according to bullhide to the unwashed.
__________________
It's all downhill from here. Except the parts that are uphill.
Terrierman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-07, 10:57 PM   #12
SaiKaiTai
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SaiKaiTai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 2,990
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Terrierman View Post
I think the black saddle nicely sets off the blue bike. If you like it after riding it the first time, I predict you are a convert and may soon be preaching the gospel according to bullhide to the unwashed.
Well, let's not get carried, now, T-man
Not hating it and liking it are two different things. Though, there absolutely are things I liked about the Brooks right out of the gate. Others I'll have to wait and see. I'll take it again tomorrow night and see. At this point it has more than earned the opportunity... I'll not be making any snap decisions. Sounds like I'm on the right track, anyway. As for the color... yeah, I couldn't agree more. Honey wouldn't have quite fit the color scheme. COLOR SCHEME???? Oh no, I'm becoming OCP!!!!
SaiKaiTai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-07, 11:12 PM   #13
Digital Gee
I need more cowbell.
 
Digital Gee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Reno, Nevada
Bikes: 2015 Specialized Sirrus Elite, 2012 Masi Evoluzione
Posts: 8,111
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Au contrare! Honey could be gorgeous with that blue frame, IF you matched it with honey-coloured bar tape. It could be quite striking!
__________________
2015 Sirrus Elite
2012 Masi Evoluzione

Proud member of the original Club Tombay
Digital Gee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-07, 04:00 AM   #14
tlc20010
The Grampster
 
tlc20010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Washington, DC
Bikes: Eddy Merckx SXM, LeMond Buenos Aires, Cannondale Road Warrior 1000 plus a couple of comforts (Specialized Crossroads and Giant Cyprus) and a beater mtb for around town.
Posts: 657
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Just make sure the puppy doesn't chew on it.
__________________
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
--Ben Franklin
tlc20010 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-07, 04:41 AM   #15
BluesDawg
just keep riding
 
BluesDawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Milledgeville, Georgia
Bikes: 2015 Specialized AWOL Comp frameset (custom build), 2015 Zukas custom road, 2014 Specialized Crave Pro 29, 2003 KHS Milano Tandem, 1986 Nishiki Cadence rigid MTB, 1980ish Fuji S-12S
Posts: 13,241
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Gee View Post
Au contrare! Honey could be gorgeous with that blue frame, IF you matched it with honey-coloured bar tape. It could be quite striking!
A blue bike with a honey brown Brooks? That's just silly.

BluesDawg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-07, 06:57 AM   #16
Beverly
Senior Member ??
 
Beverly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Englewood,Ohio
Bikes: 2007 Trek Madone 5.0 WSD - 2007 Trek 4300 WSD - 2008 Trek 520 - 2014 Catrike Trail
Posts: 5,094
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Old School View Post
Just douse it with your water bottle before the next ride!
Good idea. I do carry a spray bottle of water in my bike bag....that will work.
__________________
=============================================================

Enjoy the little things in life, for one day you may look back and realize they were the big things.
-- Antonio Smith
Beverly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-07, 07:01 AM   #17
Beverly
Senior Member ??
 
Beverly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Englewood,Ohio
Bikes: 2007 Trek Madone 5.0 WSD - 2007 Trek 4300 WSD - 2008 Trek 520 - 2014 Catrike Trail
Posts: 5,094
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ticwanos View Post
Actually, I find the slickness to be a desireable trait. I can easily move around on the saddle in response to different riding conditions. Why would you want to get rid of that?
I can just see myself sliding over the handle bar or sliding off the back on an emergency stop
__________________
=============================================================

Enjoy the little things in life, for one day you may look back and realize they were the big things.
-- Antonio Smith
Beverly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-07, 07:03 AM   #18
Beverly
Senior Member ??
 
Beverly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Englewood,Ohio
Bikes: 2007 Trek Madone 5.0 WSD - 2007 Trek 4300 WSD - 2008 Trek 520 - 2014 Catrike Trail
Posts: 5,094
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiKaiTai View Post
Well, let's not get carried, now, T-man
Not hating it and liking it are two different things. Though, there absolutely are things I liked about the Brooks right out of the gate. Others I'll have to wait and see. I'll take it again tomorrow night and see. At this point it has more than earned the opportunity... I'll not be making any snap decisions. Sounds like I'm on the right track, anyway. As for the color... yeah, I couldn't agree more. Honey wouldn't have quite fit the color scheme. COLOR SCHEME???? Oh no, I'm becoming OCP!!!!
Color coordination isn't a sign of OCP It's very important in how the bike performs....just ask any woman. My black Brooks looks great on the gray/black Trek.
__________________
=============================================================

Enjoy the little things in life, for one day you may look back and realize they were the big things.
-- Antonio Smith
Beverly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-07, 09:12 AM   #19
BSLeVan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, USA
Bikes:
Posts: 1,737
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Glad you're happy with your purchase. Just ignore the fashion police and ride whatever you want to ride. Although, I would have gone with the honey.... The funny thing is that while you're riding it's pretty hard to care what color your seat is. Once off the bike, however, the visual appeal is a highly personal thing. As I said, I'm gald you're happy with your purchase. Hope you get thousands of comfort miles from it.
BSLeVan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-07, 09:23 AM   #20
SaiKaiTai
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SaiKaiTai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 2,990
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BluesDawg View Post
A blue bike with a honey brown Brooks? That's just silly.

Wellllllll... OK... point taken.
Being more specific, black was the only way to go with the '07 Reno's Blue/White/Black color scheme. For me. And, no Deeg, I don't really want to get into retaping my bars (though, yes, that would look really nice)

Quote:
Originally Posted by skipper
If it feels OK, why should you have it a little more level?
That's a good question, wish I had a good answer for it but you're right.
I guess I'm just going by how it looks, which is totally immaterial, really.
More to the point, I guess I won't really know until I give it a good ride. I haven't done much more than a couple of laps in front of the house to check the overall adjustment. I think another 12 miles is in order tonight. I'll report back.

Quote:
Originally Posted by tlc20010
Just make sure the puppy doesn't chew on it.
Oh, heavens, NO! Then, that might help to break it in a little quicker, no?
SaiKaiTai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-07, 09:26 AM   #21
Yen
Surly Girly
 
Yen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SoCal
Bikes:
Posts: 4,113
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Gee View Post
Au contrare! Honey could be gorgeous with that blue frame, IF you matched it with honey-coloured bar tape. It could be quite striking!
That's exactly what I would like to do on my black Giant, but the bars on it aren't the type you tape. I still might get the honey saddle tho'. I think Brooks saddles are beautiful and elegant-looking.

The black one looks great on your blue bike.
__________________
Specialized Roubaix Expert
Surly Long Haul Trucker
Yen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-07, 09:39 AM   #22
SaiKaiTai
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SaiKaiTai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 2,990
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yen View Post
That's exactly what I would like to do on my black Giant, but the bars on it aren't the type you tape. I still might get the honey saddle tho'. I think Brooks saddles are beautiful and elegant-looking.

The black one looks great on your blue bike.
I couldn't agree more. Timeless, beautiful, and elegant.
And hand made the same way for over 100 years. Can't beat that.
And, what can I say? I'm a sucker for leather and rivets
SaiKaiTai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-07, 09:56 AM   #23
BSLeVan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, USA
Bikes:
Posts: 1,737
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiKaiTai View Post
And, what can I say? I'm a sucker for leather and rivets
A bit on the kinky side....
BSLeVan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-07, 09:56 AM   #24
Digital Gee
I need more cowbell.
 
Digital Gee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Reno, Nevada
Bikes: 2015 Specialized Sirrus Elite, 2012 Masi Evoluzione
Posts: 8,111
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BSLeVan View Post
A bit on the kinky side....
Yeah I was thinking a little TMI...
__________________
2015 Sirrus Elite
2012 Masi Evoluzione

Proud member of the original Club Tombay
Digital Gee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-07, 01:22 PM   #25
jcm
Gemutlichkeit
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 2,424
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Yeah, yeah,yeah. Men sweat - women glisten.

Here's the low-down on the slickness thing:
Leather saddles are finished smooth for a reason. It's not just looks and ease of maintenance. Every time you move on the saddle, the slick surface allows air to get between you and the leather. This aids in the natural wicking action that make these timeless products so popular among those who take the effort to get used to them.

My advice is to do nothing that would reduce the slippery surface. Riding it will polish off finish in just the right places in good time. If you are sliding out of position, that's an adjustment issue. It looks like you have the right idea. The peak should be higher than the seat portion, which should be level with the ground - at least as a starting point.

The waxes, unquents, salves, creams, oils and other concoctions that people use to treat their saddles are all of some use, but none are strictly neccessary. I use SnoSeal on the bottom sides and an occasional clear boot polish on the tops to maintain the slick finish. Others use Proofide. Still others use mink oil or other leather treatments. The fact is, a new Brooks needs nothing, really. For many months and 3000 miles, I never put anything on a B17. I have two other 17's and two 67's that all had SnoSeal for wet weather, but there is no difference in actual ride as a result of having "treated" the leather.
jcm is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:07 PM.