Please solve one of the great mysteries for me
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,990
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Please solve one of the great mysteries for me
OK, it's probably only a mystery to me because I'm well, you know- ignorant...
As you might know, I just a Brooks (specifically a B17N) and they have a bit of a reputation.
and I've been tweaking it to find that magic spot.
Now, I actually like mine quite a lot but, yeah, it's hard... That'll go away as it breaks in UNLESS it's hard because I'm sitting on the frame. That ain't gonna give.Then it hit me, maybe I don't know where to sit. Am I too far back? Too far forward (I lean toward the former)?
Could someone supply a diagram (or other explicative tool) that shows where exactly (more or less) one's sit bones are supposed to go? I'd like to get this right early on and I'd be forever in your debt.
Seriously. Thanks
As you might know, I just a Brooks (specifically a B17N) and they have a bit of a reputation.
and I've been tweaking it to find that magic spot.
Now, I actually like mine quite a lot but, yeah, it's hard... That'll go away as it breaks in UNLESS it's hard because I'm sitting on the frame. That ain't gonna give.Then it hit me, maybe I don't know where to sit. Am I too far back? Too far forward (I lean toward the former)?
Could someone supply a diagram (or other explicative tool) that shows where exactly (more or less) one's sit bones are supposed to go? I'd like to get this right early on and I'd be forever in your debt.
Seriously. Thanks
#2
I need more cowbell.
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Reno, Nevada
Posts: 8,182
Bikes: 2015 Specialized Sirrus Elite
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I can't help you. I just wanted to say I can't wait to hear what TWL has to say about this...
__________________
2015 Sirrus Elite
Proud member of the original Club Tombay
2015 Sirrus Elite
Proud member of the original Club Tombay
#3
Senior Member
For the most part, the rails on the Brooks are the shortess rails of any other saddle. I don't know how long your legs are, but you may need a set back seat post.
__________________
George
George
#4
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,990
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Nah, I have plenty of room for adjust... the LeMond comes with a setback post.
I don't really have problem putting the saddle where I want it.
No, it's not the saddle... I want to know where my butt goes on the saddle
I don't really have problem putting the saddle where I want it.
No, it's not the saddle... I want to know where my butt goes on the saddle
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SWMO
Posts: 3,185
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1400 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
The sitbone depressions on mine are on the fat part of the saddle about 3/4 of an inch forward of the rivets. It's a regular B-17.
__________________
It's all downhill from here. Except the parts that are uphill.
It's all downhill from here. Except the parts that are uphill.
#6
just keep riding
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Milledgeville, Georgia
Posts: 13,560
Bikes: 2018 Black Mountain Cycles MCD,2017 Advocate Cycles Seldom Seen Drop Bar, 2017 Niner Jet 9 Alloy, 2015 Zukas custom road, 2003 KHS Milano Tandem, 1986 Nishiki Cadence rigid MTB, 1980ish Fuji S-12S
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 173 Post(s)
Liked 33 Times
in
22 Posts
Using the world's most comfortable individual saddle as an example, this works for me.
#7
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Oley, PA
Posts: 880
Bikes: Flat bar road bike, trail bike and MTB
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Hmmm.. this could be my problem with some 20 saddles. No matter what saddle, or what bike, I seem to be sitting midway on the saddle. A good couple of inches unused saddle sticking out the back of my butt.
__________________
BierHaus Bertolette Road Bike, built 2007
BierHaus SRT Trail Bike, built 2010
Fuji Mt. Pro - 2007
BierHaus Bertolette Road Bike, built 2007
BierHaus SRT Trail Bike, built 2010
Fuji Mt. Pro - 2007
#8
Happy Rider
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 749
Bikes: Gold Rush, Moots compact, Bike Friday Pocket Crusoe
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#9
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,990
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Oh yeah, that's what I'm talkin' about, guys!
I see the dimples on your saddle, there, 'Dawg. Conceptually it makes perfect sense.
I'm going out tomorrow for a 20-25 mile break in ride and now I know what to be cognizant of...
I'll get out the ruler and measure before I go...
Cool. And I am in your debt, folks...
I see the dimples on your saddle, there, 'Dawg. Conceptually it makes perfect sense.
I'm going out tomorrow for a 20-25 mile break in ride and now I know what to be cognizant of...
I'll get out the ruler and measure before I go...
Cool. And I am in your debt, folks...
#10
Time for a change.
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Posts: 19,913
Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times
in
4 Posts
The bill is in the post.
Not on a Brooks- but I find the further I can get the Butt rearwards onto the wide part of the saddle- The more comfortable it is. All Of my saddles are the same width but the poition of the saddle on the Seatpost varies from bike to bike. The MTB and the Boreas- the saddle is as far forward as possible and they are small frames. Then on the giant- I am about middway on the rails.
Doesn't seem to matter as I am comfortable on all the bikes- but If I consciously think about where the butt is- It is always as far back as possible to afford that bit bit of comfort from a good fitting saddle. Only time I find the position different is when I am pushing hard up a hill and I do find myself further forward on the Narrow part of the saddle.
Not on a Brooks- but I find the further I can get the Butt rearwards onto the wide part of the saddle- The more comfortable it is. All Of my saddles are the same width but the poition of the saddle on the Seatpost varies from bike to bike. The MTB and the Boreas- the saddle is as far forward as possible and they are small frames. Then on the giant- I am about middway on the rails.
Doesn't seem to matter as I am comfortable on all the bikes- but If I consciously think about where the butt is- It is always as far back as possible to afford that bit bit of comfort from a good fitting saddle. Only time I find the position different is when I am pushing hard up a hill and I do find myself further forward on the Narrow part of the saddle.
__________________
How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.
Spike Milligan
How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.
Spike Milligan
#11
just keep riding
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Milledgeville, Georgia
Posts: 13,560
Bikes: 2018 Black Mountain Cycles MCD,2017 Advocate Cycles Seldom Seen Drop Bar, 2017 Niner Jet 9 Alloy, 2015 Zukas custom road, 2003 KHS Milano Tandem, 1986 Nishiki Cadence rigid MTB, 1980ish Fuji S-12S
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 173 Post(s)
Liked 33 Times
in
22 Posts
But I do agree with sitting on the wide part near the rear of a saddle most of the time. This allows your sit bones to support your weight and keeps it off your taint. Because a Brooks is so hard, this keeps you suspended enough that most people won't need the cutout commonly used on softer saddles to relieve perineal pressure.
#12
Time for a change.
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Posts: 19,913
Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times
in
4 Posts
I think the reason I am so far forward when climbing hard stems from Offroading. When it gets tough or extra steep- I am trying to keep the front wheel down on the ground. Did say our hills are a bit steep at times. It just seems natural to me to move forward on the saddle as this also puts my knee in front of the pedal for extra power.
__________________
How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.
Spike Milligan
How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.
Spike Milligan
#13
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,990
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
OK... here we go... did another 20+ miles of break in today.
About 4-5 miles in I stopped and just stood up on the pedals and sat down a few times paying attention to wear my butt naturally wanted to park itself. Did a quick adjustment and moved the saddle up about a cm. Ohhhh... that's much better. It's not quite there just yet. When I got home I did the "string-on-the-kneecap" thing and I could probably move it back a bit but it's so close.
I got to the turnaround point in today's ride and ran into my playing partner. As we stood and chatted a bit, I looked at the Brooks and, yes, there they were: nascent dimples.
Right now I have all of 50-60 miles on the B17N and I'm seeing the dimples
Yeah, my butt's a little sore right now (probably because I'm staying in the saddle over every floggin' bump, dip and pothole in Pacifica and I am taking a pounding. Oddly enough the Brooks soaks up a lot it... a lot more than the "vibration absorbing" carbon seatpost, for sure. Besides, I don't mind a little soreness -and I mean little-, the break in plan is working.
Overall, I felt better on this bike today than any time since I bought it.
And that should just about be the end of my Brooks story. Pass me the Kool-aid.
About 4-5 miles in I stopped and just stood up on the pedals and sat down a few times paying attention to wear my butt naturally wanted to park itself. Did a quick adjustment and moved the saddle up about a cm. Ohhhh... that's much better. It's not quite there just yet. When I got home I did the "string-on-the-kneecap" thing and I could probably move it back a bit but it's so close.
I got to the turnaround point in today's ride and ran into my playing partner. As we stood and chatted a bit, I looked at the Brooks and, yes, there they were: nascent dimples.
Right now I have all of 50-60 miles on the B17N and I'm seeing the dimples
Yeah, my butt's a little sore right now (probably because I'm staying in the saddle over every floggin' bump, dip and pothole in Pacifica and I am taking a pounding. Oddly enough the Brooks soaks up a lot it... a lot more than the "vibration absorbing" carbon seatpost, for sure. Besides, I don't mind a little soreness -and I mean little-, the break in plan is working.
Overall, I felt better on this bike today than any time since I bought it.
And that should just about be the end of my Brooks story. Pass me the Kool-aid.
Last edited by SaiKaiTai; 08-05-07 at 12:28 AM.
#14
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Chili, NY
Posts: 733
Bikes: 88 Fisher Gemini tandem, 92 Trek 970, 07 Nashbar Frame, 08 Gary Fisher Paragon
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Stick with it and it will pay off in the long haul.
Bluesdawg. I thought that MY Honey Brown saddle had darkened up a bit and something was wrong with it. I see yours is doing the same. I need to take a shot of mine, I think my sitbone dimples are more pronounced. Dang I love this saddle!
Bluesdawg. I thought that MY Honey Brown saddle had darkened up a bit and something was wrong with it. I see yours is doing the same. I need to take a shot of mine, I think my sitbone dimples are more pronounced. Dang I love this saddle!
#16
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,990
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
OK, just to clarify... I meant I won't be posting any more about the saddle; what is there left to say?
I'm keeping the saddle.
I'm keeping the saddle.
#17
just keep riding
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Milledgeville, Georgia
Posts: 13,560
Bikes: 2018 Black Mountain Cycles MCD,2017 Advocate Cycles Seldom Seen Drop Bar, 2017 Niner Jet 9 Alloy, 2015 Zukas custom road, 2003 KHS Milano Tandem, 1986 Nishiki Cadence rigid MTB, 1980ish Fuji S-12S
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 173 Post(s)
Liked 33 Times
in
22 Posts
Here is one a few years older with a lot more miles on it and lots of hot, sweaty days and a few rainy days.