socalrider

This is what I was looking for also, someone with firsthand experience.. Well if no one is using it what are you supplementing with as you get older..

For me it is Multivitamin + Glucosamine/Chondroitin for the joints, my creeky knees have gone away since using this..

freeranger

I'm using what you use--but never had creaky knees-I'm using it so they don't become creaky. I used to get lower back pain-only bothers me now if I'm on the riding mower for a couple of hours.

filtersweep

I believe most men could benefit from some hormone replacement therapy--- women do it all the time. Of course it isn't associated with 'roids-- etcf.

The Weak Link

Well, if you want to put a spring in your step and lighten the load, try Carters Pills.

Motorad

My wife must be slipping me HSH ... human shrinking hormone.

In 1996, when our new hospital opened, I had little time to professionally place restrictive signs on certain doors, to be in compliance with regulatory requirements. A bunch of signs, wanted them all to be positioned uniformly on all required doors, and came up with this idea: Stand immediately in front of each door ... eyeball-center the sign to be horizontally-centered on the door ... and center each sign to be at the height of my nose while standing up straight with typical office work shoes. Did the job quick, and signs were uniformly posted.

Now that my wife has been slipping me HSH ... and eleven years later ... all these signs are now centered about an inch above my nose-height. Say No To Drugs!!!

LastPlace

socalrider,

Didn't mean to get off on a tangent there. There might be something over here.............

https://forums.menshealth.com/eve

Good luck.

DnvrFox

socalrider

I just went to my local Vitamin Shoppe and asked some questions.. It turns out they have an entire section of HGH, about 15 different brands of HGH.. This is not the high potentcy HGH, but most claims that it just helps boost your natural HGH levels.. I am pretty sure my friend is getting the shots of HGH, which is not what I want to do, I was just curious if anyone had firsthand use.. I guess I will stick my multivitamin.

bobbyahines

The problem with HGH, is that its benefits disappear when you stop taking it. So stay on it forever? Expensive for one, and more potential for those potential side effects to show up...

maddmaxx 

I must be getting slow with advancing age but it just dawned on my what WL's fascination with carters pills was :

europa

It's so easy to swallow a pill or take a jab, much easier than actually being careful about your diet and getting plenty of exercise. Sure, do it the lazy man's way. There aren't any long term effects, there can't be, you've spent all that money for this product so it must be good. Only fools exercise to look good.

Anyone who thinks that taking drugs is the way the health and happiness is a mug.

Sheesh.
Richard

and I too dislike Dnvrfox's font colour - but only coz I'm a gumpy

Wildwood 

I've been riding and exercising steadily for 20 years, some years more than others of course. The first 35 years I got by on youth and good luck. Along the way (for relatively short periods of time) I've had to take drugs for hypertension, cholesteral, infection, etc. I also believe in low dose aspirin, fish oil tablets and multivitamins. I even let them give me drugs when I go for a dental procedure. I regularly have a glass of wine or beer. When my memory recall gets worse I'll consider the Alzheimer's meds. Potassium tablets help eliminate leg cramps after long days riding in the heat. Sheesh, call me a mug but I believe in health and happiness and legal drugs. If glucosamine or HGH or anti-depressants help a person feel better and more productive then I say more power to them.

jukt

You will be able to ride in the TdF, but not in yellow.

Baroque

Estrogen therapy is a hotly debated topic. Google 'Estrogen Therapy Danger', for example. Outside of the potential health hazards with this hormone "replacement" --- i.e., replacing at a time when Ol' Mother Nature is clearly bent on shutting down production --- there's also the separate issue of how some estrogen therapy ingredients are still obtained (the Premarin debate).
No offense or disrespect intended to anyone who wants or needs to employ this therapy. I just wanted to say that hormone replacement is a serious subject that should be approached cautiously by both men and women. Until I find out differently, I'm going on the assumption that this is the only body I'm going to get, so I'd better try to make it last another 100,000 miles!

Ally

Terrierman

No problem with being slow. Remember how long it took BD to figure out that Tom Bombadil was not Tom Bombadil's actual real name?

Zachary09

I am sharing the side effects of the undue use of HGH....

-- Acromegaly (as described in detail above)
-- Premature death (in case of acromegaly)
-- Heart enlargement (due to prolonged use of HGH. Can't be reversed)
-- Low blood sugar with risk of going into a diabetic coma
-- Excessive hair growth all over the body
-- Excessive water retention
-- Liver damage
-- Thyroid damage

martianone

You have "premature death" ?
Interesting ?

scroca

I wouldn't do it.

I don't know if it's even FDA regulated. Much of the supplement industry is not. Who knows what they put in some of that stuff.

FrenchFit 

Yes, at the risk of actually saying something relevant (..ducking). I tried a regime around age 50, this was quite a few years ago. I was re-inventing myself mentally/physically I guess. It seemed to improve my gym work-outs but gave me sleeping/dreaming troubles. I dumped HGH in favor of better habits. I don't have a negative bias, for a jump start maybe it's worth the experimentation. I found a concern to be the side-effects, if any, have a tendency to sneak up on you...and that was disturbing.

Shimagnolo

I hate it when that happens.

Monoborracho

Harmone Replacement Therapy in women also results in breast cancer for quite a few. Ask the oncologists and not the med companies.

IMHO, taking any kind of hormone supplement is to invite some form of cancer.

Period.

Pat

All of us have heard of the benefits of performance enhancing drugs.

One problem with them is that people become emotionally dependant on them. For example, people who take steroids, often take immense quantities of them which inevitably produces toxic effects. Also, steroids supposedly only work if one intensifies their work out. So how much of the effect is from the training alone?

The notion in the elderly, is that adding certain hormones like steroids and HGH will offset the natural decline in these things. But these hormones have multiple effects and are believed to do things like increase risk to heart disease and cancer.

What seems to be true is that these things are expensive, often illegal, and have nasty side effects. The benefits are not well documented and are problematic. Now for a professional athelete trying to get a slight performance edge or to recover faster from an injury, well I can see how that might make sense. But for a recreational athelete, I think I will just take a pass.

Altair 4

I got a giggle out of how the ad banner for this thread became "Cenegenics Medical Institute" with the buff 72 yr old physicianh as the model. Carry on...