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Old 08-06-07, 01:23 PM   #1
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Legs twitchy at night

Go ahead and laugh....

A few weeks ago I began waking up briefly on some nights with the feeling that my legs are full of energy. Around that same time I began adding more evening rides after work, and our weekend rides are getting longer. We are not over-doing it, I always stretch, warm up, cool down, drink plenty of water, and my diet is excellent.

I should say that I do officially have restless leg syndrome (RLS) (yes, it is real and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy) but I have the milder type that sets in just as I am relaxing for the evening, when I sit down around 8:00 pm to read or watch TV or visit with guests. That's when the RLS "creepy crawly" feeling begins. But once I go to bed, it stops and it has never bothered me during the night. And, this twitchy feeling doesn't feel exactly the same as the itchy/creepy/crawly sensation.

It happened again last night when I awoke at 1:00 am. This morning my husband in kidding said "maybe it's your fast-twitch muscles". We went for an easy ride last night for 1 hour (HR around 110).

Do I need to take B vitamins? Stretch longer and more often? Has anyone else experienced this when you began riding or increased the frequency?
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Old 08-06-07, 01:31 PM   #2
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Go ahead and laugh....

A few weeks ago I began waking up briefly on some nights with the feeling that my legs are full of energy. Around that same time I began adding more evening rides after work, and our weekend rides are getting longer. We are not over-doing it, I always stretch, warm up, cool down, drink plenty of water, and my diet is excellent.

I should say that I do officially have restless leg syndrome (RLS) (yes, it is real and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy) but I have the milder type that sets in just as I am relaxing for the evening, when I sit down around 8:00 pm to read or watch TV or visit with guests. That's when the RLS "creepy crawly" feeling begins. But once I go to bed, it stops and it has never bothered me during the night. And, this twitchy feeling doesn't feel exactly the same as the itchy/creepy/crawly sensation.

It happened again last night when I awoke at 1:00 am. This morning my husband in kidding said "maybe it's your fast-twitch muscles". We went for an easy ride last night for 1 hour (HR around 110).

Do I need to take B vitamins? Stretch longer and more often? Has anyone else experienced this when you began riding or increased the frequency?

Perhaps its time to find a 5 mile circular route round your area and go out and "Over Do It". Not too much and make certain you have nothing planned for the next day but you have the fitness- and the Stamina- so get out and do just that one more circuit.
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That sounds like fun. Are you saying that my legs are "itching" to get out and ride like crazy?
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Go ahead and laugh....
I know it's a deeply cynical crowd around here but I can't imagine anyone finding any humor in your misfortune.

Especially since we're all old enough to develop it at any time.

Now if I were 20 I'd probably get a chuckle out of it.
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I have no personal experience, but maybe this article will help. Scroll down to fine links to additional info

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restless_legs_syndrome
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Do I need to take B vitamins? Stretch longer and more often? Has anyone else experienced this when you began riding or increased the frequency?
I used to get twitching and occasional leg cramps after "hard" rides. Try a little potassium, the pills are cheap. May not be a solution but nothing to lose in trying.
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The potassium sounds like a good idea. I started to have the same problem, my doc said to try eating a couple bananas (I are a gud spelor) after a hard ride, and that seemed to help.
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Wait a minute...I just noticed I am now listed as a "Senior Member." How did this happen??? Inside my helmet, it's still 25!!
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+1 to the potassium pill and try some
tonic water containing quinine; as
quinine is suppose to help cramps.
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Old 08-06-07, 03:43 PM   #10
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Could it be the HOT weather causing/affecting your symptoms?
I use this stuff in hot (above 85 F) weather with great satisfaction:

http://www.bikeworld.com/products/20...nk-Powder.html

I supplement the "Heat Endurance" drink with eLoad "Zone" electrolyte sustainer capsules during 90 to 100 degree temps. No cramping, burning/aching, and "out of gas" muscle weakness feeling.

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Old 08-06-07, 03:48 PM   #11
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I don't know much about this, but I've occasionally had symptoms that I thought might be RLS related.

When my legs feel like that, I've tried stretching for 10-15 minutes before bed and found it helpful. Maybe it would help you, too.
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Wait a minute...I just noticed I am now listed as a "Senior Member." How did this happen??? Inside my helmet, it's still 25!!
50 posts makes you a "Senior Member, I think. At least, that's when I noticed that I had been labeled that.
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Old 08-06-07, 04:19 PM   #13
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+1 on the potassium, but take it the fun way: bananas.
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+1 on the potassium, but take it the fun way: bananas.
Would a banana daquiri work?
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For some reason when I read the title of this thread that song "You Make Me Feel Like Dancin..." popped into my head. Maybe you should dance a few dances before retiring and that might help? I mean if you believe there might be a teensy little chance that psychic friends network and all that jazz has it going on, what if I got a message here?
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I never lift wights in the evening, because it sets all my muscles on edge. I really can't sleep too well. I don't think it is uncommon for exertion in the evening or later at night to cause muscle stimulation and jumpiness.
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Along the same lines as others have mentioned, is it possible that you are taking medications that are known to deplete potassium, or perhaps there's an imbalance in your sports/energy drink, if any?

Or perhaps, if you formerly had several hours to relax before going to sleep, and now you're exercising longer hours, with shorter relaxation period before sleep, you're just not getting enough rest? (According to your legs, anyway). Hope you find a solution fast!

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Yes, yes... very funny and oh-so-witty.

It might just be potassium or something, but this is possibly a neurological problem, and not related to riding bikes. I have it as well, although my symptoms are somewhat different. If you have not been checked out by a doctor you should consider doing this just to rule out something more serious (I am not a doctor and don't pretend to be but I am not going to be flip about this either). there are prescription drug for RLS but I have not tried it because I am not troubled enough to chance the side effects). Good luck!!
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I don't have RLS, but my legs used to twitch after I went to sleep (confirmation from wife). I say "used to" because a trainer suggested using a core foam roller. It's a tube of plastic (urethane?). There are many stretching routines you can use. The one I use for my calfs is to roll each calf over the roller with the other leg on top (sitting down with your palms flat on the floor). Do this for about a minute for each calf. Haven't had any twitches since I started using it.
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I have a friend that has a similar condition. He does 150 squats every night, right before he goes to bed. His legs are massive.
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I found relief from RLS symptoms by cutting way down on food additives. Home made spaghetti sauce, okay. Jarred spaghetti sauce, twitchy symptoms. Anything that comes in a container, I read the ingredients. Too many chemicals, it stays on the shelf.
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I do not have RLS but I do have nights after harder rides where my legs keep me up. Generally it is just due to more fatigue than usual and not being able to find a comfortable position, so I toss and turn a lot. This sounds a bit different from your problem though.
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I added magnesium supplements to my diet and RLS disappeared. If it is a placebo effect it is an effective one. Be careful of Parkinson's related supplements for RLS. A partner at my wife's firm has been on TV describing a horror show she experienced. She was not advised that a fairly rare side effect is gambling addiction. About $350K later she was informed.
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Potassium, any way you can get it (I'm not sure the banana daquiri has enough banana in it though).
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There is a quinine product sold at w mart which works great for my wife. It is called leg cramps and sells for about $2. It is always best to go to the medical professionals and have all the required and sometimes life threatening test done but if you don't want to go this route then the above product might work for you.
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