Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Fifty Plus (50+) Share the victories, challenges, successes and special concerns of bicyclists 50 and older. Especially useful for those entering or reentering bicycling.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-07-07, 02:16 PM   #1
jm01
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Toronto & Wasaga Beach, Ontario, Canada
Bikes: Ellsworth Id
Posts: 964
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
reworked my vintage roadie

finished the rework of my old Gitane (Professional Tour de France model) yesterday and took it out for a quick 120km loop of our local concessions. Reynold's 531 frame set, Shugano Racing crank/cog set, Simplex derailleurs, original Mavic 700x25 rims...

quite the bike...serial # B3
Attached Images
File Type: jpg gitanne 002.jpg (87.7 KB, 50 views)
File Type: jpg gitane 002.jpg (89.5 KB, 99 views)
File Type: jpg gitane 001.jpg (92.9 KB, 77 views)
jm01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-07, 02:28 PM   #2
BluesDawg
just keep riding
 
BluesDawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Milledgeville, Georgia
Bikes: 2015 Specialized AWOL Comp frameset (custom build), 2015 Zukas custom road, 2014 Specialized Crave Pro 29, 2003 KHS Milano Tandem, 1986 Nishiki Cadence rigid MTB, 1980ish Fuji S-12S
Posts: 13,272
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 39 Post(s)
Like the bike. Not so much the bars.
BluesDawg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-07, 02:30 PM   #3
BSLeVan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, USA
Bikes:
Posts: 1,737
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I like. Good use of vintage steel.
BSLeVan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-07, 02:31 PM   #4
jm01
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Toronto & Wasaga Beach, Ontario, Canada
Bikes: Ellsworth Id
Posts: 964
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
dislocated both my shoulders mountain biking (not at the same time)...drops are just wishfull thinking nowadays
jm01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-07, 02:58 PM   #5
Digital Gee
I need more cowbell.
 
Digital Gee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Reno, Nevada
Bikes: 2015 Specialized Sirrus Elite, 2012 Masi Evoluzione
Posts: 8,111
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
What's that other two wheel contraption in the background of Pic #2?
__________________
2015 Sirrus Elite
2012 Masi Evoluzione

Proud member of the original Club Tombay
Digital Gee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-07, 03:51 PM   #6
John E
feros ferio
 
John E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: www.ci.encinitas.ca.us
Bikes: 1959 Capo; 1980 Peugeot PKN-10; 1981 Bianchi; 1988 Schwinn KOM-10;
Posts: 17,299
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 135 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jm01 View Post
dislocated both my shoulders mountain biking (not at the same time)...
One of my coworkers separated his shoulder (mountain bike spill) such that the lateral end of his clavicle now protrudes. His orthopedist recommended leaving it alone unless it becomes painful or debilitating.
__________________
"Early to bed, early to rise. Work like hell, and advertise." -- George Stahlman
Capo [dschaw'-poe]: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger, S/N 42624
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1981 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
John E is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-07, 04:03 PM   #7
Louis
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Bikes:
Posts: 4,866
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Like BluesDawg, I prefer drop bars. But still, I really like your Gitane. Nice work.
Louis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-07, 04:30 PM   #8
SnuffyP
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 14
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quite the bike indeed. I borrowed a friend's Gitane and, totally unprepared (zero training miles) started north from Chapel Hill in a sweater and made it to Danville Va the first evening. I had forgotten money, and went to police station where a disinterested clerk handed me a pass to a downtown flophouse. I continued the trip up into the virginia skyline -closed for winter- borrowing clothes and staying in Salvation Army houses. I once got off the bike after one long freezing downhill and wimpered like a child. The Gitane became part of me and cut along beautifully through the winter isolation and then down into Virginia's warm valleys and on to Wash DC where a rear hub component broke and forced me to stop. I loved that bike and will never forget the adventure.
SnuffyP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-07, 11:45 PM   #9
Tom Bombadil
His Brain is Gone!
 
Tom Bombadil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Paoli, Wisconsin
Bikes: RANS Stratus, Bridgestone CB-1, Trek 7600, Sun EZ-Rider AX, Fuji Absolute 1.0, Cayne Rambler 3
Posts: 9,980
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jm01 View Post
finished the rework of my old Gitane (Professional Tour de France model) yesterday and took it out for a quick 120km loop of our local concessions. Reynold's 531 frame set, Shugano Racing crank/cog set, Simplex derailleurs, original Mavic 700x25 rims...

quite the bike...serial # B3
A "quick 120km loop?"

Would you mind entering an account of some of your longest rides in the thread on long rides on non-drop bar bikes? I'm trying to construct a repository of notable long rides on bikes that had different types of handlebars. Something that someone might find in a search if they were interested in what is achievable on different types of bikes.
__________________
"Too often I would hear men boast of the miles covered that day, rarely of what they had seen." Louis L'Amour

There are two types of road bikers: bikers who are faster than me, and me. Bruce Cameron - Denver Post
Tom Bombadil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-07, 04:30 AM   #10
Jet Travis
Ride Daddy Ride
 
Jet Travis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Villa Incognito
Bikes: 1983 Trek 720; 1983 Trek 620; 1989 Gi Cannondale Bad Boy Ultra; LeMond Victoire; Bike Friday Pocket Rocket Pro
Posts: 2,648
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reynolds 531....Chrome....Simplex...WOW!
__________________
"Light it up, Popo." --Levi Leipheimer
Jet Travis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-07, 07:05 AM   #11
RockyMtnMerlin
Senior Member
 
RockyMtnMerlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Laramie Wyoming
Bikes: Merlin Extralight Topolino Wheels Campy Record
Posts: 2,970
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Do you actually ride it with the seat positioned that way or was that just for the pics?
RockyMtnMerlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-07, 07:33 AM   #12
jm01
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Toronto & Wasaga Beach, Ontario, Canada
Bikes: Ellsworth Id
Posts: 964
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My daughter's 1985 Vespa...she's going to paint it pink
jm01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-07, 07:35 AM   #13
jm01
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Toronto & Wasaga Beach, Ontario, Canada
Bikes: Ellsworth Id
Posts: 964
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by RockyMtnMerlin View Post
Do you actually ride it with the seat positioned that way or was that just for the pics?
yes, it was comfortable for a while...kept me in an upright position, less weight on the bars, but you did notice some pressure after a while

This bike now has a Specialized Body Geometry saddle from an old bike
jm01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-07, 07:52 AM   #14
jm01
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Toronto & Wasaga Beach, Ontario, Canada
Bikes: Ellsworth Id
Posts: 964
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil View Post
A "quick 120km loop?"

Would you mind entering an account of some of your longest rides in the thread on long rides on non-drop bar bikes? I'm trying to construct a repository of notable long rides on bikes that had different types of handlebars. Something that someone might find in a search if they were interested in what is achievable on different types of bikes.
hi tom...this loop on the new flat bar Gitane took me from Wasaga Beach to Creemore, on to Glen Huron, to Duntroon, to Collingwood, then to Woodland Beach (through Wasaga), then back to Wasaga.

The challenge here is the climb up the Niagara Escarpment (550 metres above sea level)...a vertical of about 1000 feet over 5 km (you do it twice as Creemore is at the bottom...Duntroon at the top again...see pic of wife on hill)

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...te=on&zipcode=

My longest ride is my annual birthday ride from Toronto to Collingwood...Staying on the back roads its about 170km. I now use my comfort hybrid...a Schwinn Sierra 700 gsx...8 spd 11-30 cog set, 52T big chain ring, 700x38 tires...its set up to for panniers to carry tools, tubes, water, food, etc.(see pic)

We also do a 100km loop through the concessions south of Wasaga on a Trek 7.5fx...my wife uses a flat bar Opus roadie which is a better bike for this...after rain, she uses a hybridized Peugeot that I built for her a few years ago for asphalt...she usually is good for about 100km/day

When out for a couple of hours (40-50km), she uses her Trek 7300, but she is beginning to hate this bike
Attached Images
File Type: jpg schwinn.jpg (78.9 KB, 10 views)
File Type: jpg 7.5fx.jpg (87.0 KB, 11 views)
File Type: jpg opus 003.jpg (94.4 KB, 8 views)
File Type: jpg peugeot.jpg (91.1 KB, 9 views)
File Type: jpg 7300.jpg (93.2 KB, 9 views)
File Type: jpg hill.jpg (67.1 KB, 8 views)
jm01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-07, 09:07 AM   #15
jm01
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Toronto & Wasaga Beach, Ontario, Canada
Bikes: Ellsworth Id
Posts: 964
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil View Post

Would you mind entering an account of some of your longest rides in the thread on long rides on non-drop bar bikes?
I enetered it below as I can't locate the thread on long rides on non-drop bar bikes
jm01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-07, 12:48 PM   #16
Roger Hill
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Well, I like the bars......thinking of doing something similar to my Trek 610. My neck just can't stand any more riding on drop bars. Please tell me what the shifters are and what you used for bosses for the shifter cable housings. Do you have a six or seven speed freewheel? Thanks for any advice.

Roger Hill
Roger Hill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-07, 02:16 PM   #17
jm01
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Toronto & Wasaga Beach, Ontario, Canada
Bikes: Ellsworth Id
Posts: 964
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Hill View Post
Well, I like the bars......thinking of doing something similar to my Trek 610. My neck just can't stand any more riding on drop bars. Please tell me what the shifters are and what you used for bosses for the shifter cable housings. Do you have a six or seven speed freewheel? Thanks for any advice.

Roger Hill
That part was the hardest to find...non-indexed friction shifters for the 5 spd cog set. I have a 6 cog tri-bike that I'll be converting as soon as I find another set (the front was easy, but they don't make these for the rears anymore)...it would be nice to find a rear from a 7 spd...you need that extra travel to get the chain up to the big cog (unless you're running a 25)

Also, the brake levers for cantilever brakes work best...the fulcrum point is different than V-Brakes

I found a double clamp-on boss from an old road bike that replaced the two levers on the down tube...these are common on bikes with shifters on the stem

The toughest part was installing the bar itself...using the original stem I had to bend the clamp open as the new bar is bigger than the drops and then bend it carefully back (a hammer worked well)

Lastly. I had to replace all the cables and three of the housings (only the white one is original). It will be interesting on the tri-bike as the rear brake is on the left and the housing is routed through the top tube

Briefly, if I hadn't made this conversion, I would no longer be able to ride this bike...but it's one of the best riding bikes I have...no oversteer, not twitchy, very fast, with a wide range of gears...and comfortable

You won't regret making the switch...takes about 2 hours
jm01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-07, 02:38 PM   #18
jm01
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Toronto & Wasaga Beach, Ontario, Canada
Bikes: Ellsworth Id
Posts: 964
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Hill View Post
Well, I like the bars......thinking of doing something similar to my Trek 610. My neck just can't stand any more riding on drop bars. Please tell me what the shifters are and what you used for bosses for the shifter cable housings. Do you have a six or seven speed freewheel? Thanks for any advice.

Roger Hill
actually, because of my back, I tried these bars on it first. It put you in an upright position, but the geometry just didn't work
Attached Images
File Type: jpg gitanne 001.jpg (93.5 KB, 9 views)
jm01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-07, 03:37 PM   #19
BluesDawg
just keep riding
 
BluesDawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Milledgeville, Georgia
Bikes: 2015 Specialized AWOL Comp frameset (custom build), 2015 Zukas custom road, 2014 Specialized Crave Pro 29, 2003 KHS Milano Tandem, 1986 Nishiki Cadence rigid MTB, 1980ish Fuji S-12S
Posts: 13,272
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 39 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jm01 View Post
That part was the hardest to find...non-indexed friction shifters for the 5 spd cog set. I have a 6 cog tri-bike that I'll be converting as soon as I find another set (the front was easy, but they don't make these for the rears anymore)...it would be nice to find a rear from a 7 spd...you need that extra travel to get the chain up to the big cog (unless you're running a 25)
Have you tried eBay? I often see the old thumb shifters for 6, 7 and 8 speeds there. The Shimano ones tend to go for too much, but the Suntour shifters are as good or better and usually go for less. Most of them have friction option and some are pure friction.

BTW, my comment about the bars was more about their lack of sweep than their uprightness. I find a straight bar to be very uncomfortable, even offroad. But your shoulder condition must make the straight ones work better for you.
I've noticed that Salsa is now making MTB bars with 17 deg. rear sweep. I may give them a try on my Rockhopper.
BluesDawg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-07, 04:37 PM   #20
RockyMtnMerlin
Senior Member
 
RockyMtnMerlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Laramie Wyoming
Bikes: Merlin Extralight Topolino Wheels Campy Record
Posts: 2,970
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jm01 View Post
yes, it was comfortable for a while...kept me in an upright position, less weight on the bars, but you did notice some pressure after a while

This bike now has a Specialized Body Geometry saddle from an old bike
Whew! It made me sore just looking at it.
RockyMtnMerlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-07, 06:51 PM   #21
BluesDawg
just keep riding
 
BluesDawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Milledgeville, Georgia
Bikes: 2015 Specialized AWOL Comp frameset (custom build), 2015 Zukas custom road, 2014 Specialized Crave Pro 29, 2003 KHS Milano Tandem, 1986 Nishiki Cadence rigid MTB, 1980ish Fuji S-12S
Posts: 13,272
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 39 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jm01 View Post
The toughest part was installing the bar itself...using the original stem I had to bend the clamp open as the new bar is bigger than the drops and then bend it carefully back (a hammer worked well)
That sounds kind of scary. I don't like bending and taking a hammer to load bearing aluminum parts (or is it steel?). Must have been an odd sized drop bar. Current standard is 26.0mm for drop bars and 25.4mm for flat. But no telling what an old French bike used.
BluesDawg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-07, 07:38 AM   #22
jm01
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Toronto & Wasaga Beach, Ontario, Canada
Bikes: Ellsworth Id
Posts: 964
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BluesDawg View Post
That sounds kind of scary. I don't like bending and taking a hammer to load bearing aluminum parts (or is it steel?). Must have been an odd sized drop bar. Current standard is 26.0mm for drop bars and 25.4mm for flat. But no telling what an old French bike used.
you're probably right...the old drop bar was very skinny, but this seemed to work well. The hammer came in handy to curl the bracket around the new bar so that the bolt would line up...yes, it is aluminum

The alternative would be to replace the stem as I did on my wife's old bike...
Attached Images
File Type: jpg peugeot.jpg (91.1 KB, 5 views)
jm01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-07, 07:45 AM   #23
jm01
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Toronto & Wasaga Beach, Ontario, Canada
Bikes: Ellsworth Id
Posts: 964
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BluesDawg View Post
Have you tried eBay? I often see the old thumb shifters for 6, 7 and 8 speeds there. The Shimano ones tend to go for too much, but the Suntour shifters are as good or better and usually go for less. Most of them have friction option and some are pure friction.

BTW, my comment about the bars was more about their lack of sweep than their uprightness. I find a straight bar to be very uncomfortable, even offroad. But your shoulder condition must make the straight ones work better for you.
I've noticed that Salsa is now making MTB bars with 17 deg. rear sweep. I may give them a try on my Rockhopper.
We have a few bike jobbers in Toronto...they supply used parts to couriers and people like me...you can find just about anything, but non-indexed friction rear shifters are scarce

this is my favourite:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannybo.../50180/detail/

Parts Unknown
Specialty: Service
Address: Alleyway next to Segovia Meats on Augusta St, Toronto
Neighborhood: Downtown
Nearest Subway: Queens Park
Cross Street: Baldwin
Email Address: NA
Web Address: NA
Additional Information:
Beater bikes and parts thereof...
Cycling Products:
Repairs


I'll check out e-bay, but I usually pay about $3-$5 for these so shipping and commision would be prohibative
jm01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:16 PM.