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    Trolling?

    I was just reading some posts this week where someone asked a question and at some point in the responses someone called them a troll. The questions seemed to be pretty standard ones... where can I get a kickstand, etc., but were not typical of that particular forum. In other words, the kickstand question was in the roadie forum, not in the touring or utility forum. But there have been other times I've seen people called trolls that I was confused by, because they seemed to me to be honest questions or opinions. I think the definition has become a lot more subtle than, say, going to the C&V forum and writing and essay on the marvels of Carbon Fiber compared to Steel.


    Plus, I don't get the "troll" bit. I had always thought it was like "trolling for trouble", but it seems it's a noun, like the troll under the bridge.

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    Sometimes a poster will arrive and leave behind a relatively innocent post about say why does XYZ brand have defects. Perhaps he has a problem with xyz. Perhaps he works for A. If the poster is not a regular in that forum and especially if the poster joined BF 1 hr ago then one might suspect that one of the more subtile forms of troll has been found. At least thats my understanding of the definition.

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    On the internet, a troll is someone who writes something controversial, knowing that he/she will be flamed (provoke dissenting responses). So you are right, it is someone looking for trouble. In the examples above, it seems the writers just made mistakes in posting to the improper forums.

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    The term has also suffered from complete and utter overusage. Minor disagreements about bikes often lead to one person unfortunately calling another poster a "troll" even though it's an inaccurate statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Jays View Post
    The term has also suffered from complete and utter overusage. Minor disagreements about bikes often lead to one person unfortunately calling another poster a "troll" even though it's an inaccurate statement.
    Also used by some to describe a poster who may provide opinions or comments not IAW the Conventional Wisdom held by the name caller and his comrades. Useful for running off intruders to the friendly high fivin' chatter of the good ole boys. Beats coming up with rational responses.

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    Parties whose objective it is to incite controversy and usually do not care if the information posted is factual. Clueless or overly inquisitive behavior is different but can yield the same result. If I see and odd post, I check the OP's other posts. Usually trolls post to a lot of different forums asking out of place questions.

    Here is my response...

    "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    Parties whose objective it is to incite controversy and usually do not care if the information posted is factual. Clueless or overly inquisitive behavior is different but can yield the same result. If I see and odd post, I check the OP's other posts. Usually trolls post to a lot of different forums asking out of place questions.

    Here is my response...
    Nice response. I think I'll save a copy, and hope to not have to use it.
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    There are many kinds of trolls. Sometimes you'll get posts that seem innocent enough untill you realize the poster just put it up to get an arguement started or a long time-wasting debate about a well-worn issue.

    Examples:

    I followed so-and-so's advice and soaked my Brooks saddle in burnt motor oil for 40 days and 40 nights and now it won't hold it's shape. These saddles are worthless!

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    I'm looking for a new bike to do casual century rides and some trail riding with small drops, nothing over 15-20 feet. Which of these Huffy models on sale for $50 at WalMart would be best?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluesDawg View Post
    I'm looking for a new bike to do casual century rides and some trail riding with small drops, nothing over 15-20 feet. Which of these Huffy models on sale for $50 at WalMart would be best?
    The one with the kickstand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsl View Post
    The one with the kickstand.
    And a mirror.

    The alternate answer is:
    The one with the most "speeds."

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    ...like the troll under the bridge.
    There are trolls under some bridges:



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fremont_Troll

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    I think a lot of times you find someone stating a personal opinion which is not widely held in a forum that they should expect would create contradictory replies. i.e. posting "Carbon Fiber sucks, it can explode at any time why would anyone ride a CF bike" in the road forum or "Helmets are useless and only an idiot would wear one" in the Advocacy and Safety forum. You would have be exceptional naive to think that this type of inflammatory comment would not elicit a lot of contradictory response and if you are doing it just to get the response then you are a troll.

    I sometimes think the majority of people in P&R are trolling.
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    I don't know why old people bike. They are a hazard on the road and watching them try to get up hills is embarrassing.

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    Only in Wisconsin would a grown man wear one of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmaxx
    "...Only in Wisconsin would a grown man wear one of those..."
    Wear one of what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil View Post
    I don't know why old people bike. They are a hazard on the road and watching them try to get up hills is embarrassing.
    Yeah, you old geazers need to stay to the MUPS on your beach bikes and stay out of the way of real cyclists!
    The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard and the shallow end is much too large

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil View Post
    I don't know why old people bike. They are a hazard on the road and watching them try to get up hills is embarrassing.
    Troll...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil View Post
    I don't know why old people bike. They are a hazard on the road and watching them try to get up hills is embarrassing.
    Watching them try to wear spandex is embarassing...
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    Here' a troll. It always starts a long thread where people get all riled up:

    "Hello! I just got my Motobecane from bikes direct and love it!"

    --or--

    Everyone knows that PC users hate freedom and truth. They should get Macs and learn to be creative nurturing humans, not corporate bean counters.

    Example A is perhaps a new user, unaware that they are starting a war.
    Example B is someone who is an online arsonist, or a TROLL
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    Where's the Troll-b-gone when you need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cccorlew View Post
    Here' a troll. It always starts a long thread where people get all riled up:

    "Hello! I just got my Motobecane from bikes direct and love it!"
    You've been hanging out at road cycling haven't you
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    The TRUE troll is never discovered. He/she enters the conversation and handles responses in such a way that folks have no or little clue they are being manipulated. Like a very rare wine, they are subtle and smooth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stonecrd View Post
    "Carbon Fiber sucks, it can explode at any time why would anyone ride a CF bike"
    Yep, I had an emergency room visit from CF burns after a CF frame explosion. Terrible stuff!

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    Why are old people over 50 years old allowed to ride bicycles on highways? They're a hazard to themselves and to everybody else, too. That's what I read on a respected world wide web forum. It's true!

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