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    I need more cowbell. Digital Gee's Avatar
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    What does Missouri have to offer the Left Coast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital Gee View Post
    Just wonderin...
    Um...Humidity? Thunderstorms? Tarkio College?

    Just sayin'...
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    From here in beautiful California all I can wonder is:

    Missouri, isn't that someplace east of the Rockies? Somewhere? Like I care?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil View Post
    The Katy Trail!
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    They also have the Tour of Missouri this week
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    We'll trade you Arkansas for Mexico for our Southern borders, and throw in a couple of Tornados as boot. Oh and we also have ticks and Lyme disease that you don't but I'm sure you would like, chiggers and how about a few copperheads?
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    Kansas-Missouri fusion cuisine?

    Surely you jest . . . Are you referring to bbq ribs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital Gee View Post
    Just wonderin...
    Not sure why you're "wonderin" but since I lived in MO for 42 years (St. Louis area, mostly, with six years of college life in Cape Girardeau), and compared to SoCal (where I lived from '76 - '80, then '96 to present), for me as a cyclist everything is better in SoCal except (big except) the auto traffic.

    In MO we had many little hills to climb, all of which added up of course, but none of the long multiple-mile climbs we have here (Glendora Mountain Road, Angeles Crest, Latigo, etc.). Also there were fewer bike lanes, bike paths, MUP's etc. in MO.

    There were also a lot fewer bike riders in MO, which meant fewer clubs, fewer events, etc. For example, for long distance events we only had the Central Double Century (which was really in Litchfield, IL, but close to St.Louis), and BAM (Bicycle Across Missouri) which was St. Louis to Kansas City and back with a time limit of 60 hours (same rules as Paris-Brest-Paris). And I don't think either of those events exist any longer . . .

    Regarding the Katy Trail, since its built on a railroad right of way, it is far too flat to be interesting. I think the steepest climb is only 3%! Fine for trains, but monotony for the cyclist! Fortunately for bike riders, Hwy 94 is right next door to Katy, so its easy to find some good climbs on 94 (as Missouri riders certainly know), yet nothing as long (or as steep) as our climbs here in CA.

    Over on the positive side (and related to the traffic note above), there were many more back-road and country road miles with far fewer motor vehicles going by. The other side of THAT coin is that in MO the drivers were more apt to be rude/aggressive than has been my experience in CA.

    So, while MO is not the worst place to ride a bike (that would be FL in my opinion), it's far from the great cycling experience we have here in CA!

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    I need more cowbell. Digital Gee's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by snavebob View Post
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    Didn't four of these five end up living in California?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital Gee View Post
    Didn't four of these five end up living in California?
    So they were what Missouri had to offer California, then, yeah? Sounds like a logical answer to the thread title.

    Add to that list Jenna Fischer (Pam on The Office)

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    Better for families
    Better cost of living
    lower taxes
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    Beauty, peace, enjoyment and fulfillment are not usually found from majestic scenery. For me they come from within. If I was trapped in a slum I could still enjoy cycling because my enjoyment is not from the circumstances but from my attitude.

    As far as bicycling, though there have been many days I have rode 20+ miles without seeing another bicycle I have found multi roads to ride on that have been bike friendly. I rarely drive to bike. I have many routes that I can take from my house. I have come to understand hills as my friend and not an enemy. Strength is built from hardship, not from ease.

    There is more than 1 group ride a week within the Kansas City area I could participate in if I chose.

    Tour of Missouri starts at 1PM CST today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolidge View Post
    So they were what Missouri had to offer California, then, yeah? Sounds like a logical answer to the thread title.

    Add to that list Jenna Fischer (Pam on The Office)
    Well, George Bret was from Californian, and ended up in MO. Or at least, on the KC Royals...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick@OCRR View Post
    Not sure why you're "wonderin" but since I lived in MO for 42 years (St. Louis area, mostly, with six years of college life in Cape Girardeau), and compared to SoCal (where I lived from '76 - '80, then '96 to present), for me as a cyclist everything is better in SoCal except (big except) the auto traffic.
    I think there is a significantly larger cycling community than what you describe as existing eleven years ago. It does not and will never compare to California, but it is no longer as sparse and limited as what you describe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolidge View Post
    So they were what Missouri had to offer California, then, yeah? Sounds like a logical answer to the thread title.

    Add to that list Jenna Fischer (Pam on The Office)
    You're right. Makes sense!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjg001 View Post
    I think there is a significantly larger cycling community than what you describe as existing eleven years ago. It does not and will never compare to California, but it is no longer as sparse and limited as what you describe.
    Hi rjg001,

    That's good to hear! I used to ride for St. Louis Cycling Club, and I hear that's still functional, but apparently several of the clubs that were there when I was there last are no longer active:

    Lasers (used to be sponsored by Bike Center)
    Rockits (used to be sponsored by Touring Cyclist)
    Spirits (used to be sponsored by A-1)
    Cyclones (used to be sponsored by Maplewood Bicycle)

    Is the Touring Society still around? I'm pretty sure the bicycle part of the AYH is still active. What about Rails to Trails? And did the Bicycle Fun Club disband when Tom died? Are there any double centuries to replace the CDC? Are there still local brevets for P-B-P? Louis Branz used to organize the brevets when I was living in St. Louis.

    And Digital Gee, if you're still looking for people who were born in MO and then lived (and died) in CA you can add Steve McQueen.

    Rick / OCRR

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