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Old 10-01-07, 12:50 PM   #1
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saw one of these on the trail

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Old 10-01-07, 01:11 PM   #2
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Is that a coral snake?

I'm afraid that would be the last time I rode that trail
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According to this: http://www.shihtzudog.com/coral.htm it appears to be the Bad One.
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Old 10-01-07, 01:37 PM   #4
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We only have one poisonous snake in the UK and that is the Adder. Used to see plenty when I was younger but a bit rare nowadays.(Too many people see a snake and just kill it- because it is a snake). Saw one basking on a fire road last year and I was 3rd in line- 1st rider woke it up- Second rider had it lunge at him- I got out of the way- well and truly out of the way.
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Sure is a pretty thing, isn't it.
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So what are the stats on cyclists killed by Coral Snakes?
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(Too many people see a snake and just kill it- because it is a snake).
Very true, sadly.

I saw a guy killing a snake on a Nature Trail, for crying out loud.
You can be sure he got a piece of my mind. By the time I finished, he looked about ready to cry.
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Very true, sadly.

I saw a guy killing a snake on a Nature Trail, for crying out loud.
You can be sure he got a piece of my mind. By the time I finished, he looked about ready to cry.
Good for you! It's amazing how ignorant people can be about wildlife.
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Too many people see a snake and just kill it- because it is a snake.
I would never get close enough to one to do it any harm

At the other house I often ran across large black snakes while mowing the lawn. My neighbors said they knew when I had come across one because I ran to the house and the mower would sit in the yard for a couple days
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I would never get close enough to one to do it any harm

At the other house I often ran across large black snakes while mowing the lawn. My neighbors said they knew when I had come across one because I ran to the house and the mower would sit in the yard for a couple days
If it was me, I'ld have run into the house and the mower would still
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For me, it's hard to run very fast while I'm peeing down my leg.
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If it was me, I'ld have run into the house and the mower would still
be running!
Mine had an automatic shut-off or it would still be running, too
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My question is, did you draft him or drop him?
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My question is, did you draft him or drop him?
- when i rode by i wasn't sure of the coloring (as it could have been a kingsnake)... but i circled around, and sure enough, it was a coral snake - the second i've seen about this time of year down here...

- amazingly enough, the coral, related to the cobra, isn't the real baddie: that distinction belongs to the local rattlesnake species!

- i just have to remember the ditty:

'If red touches yellow, it can kill a fellow'
'If red touches black, it is a friend of Jack'


(oh, and the coral snake was NOT afraid of me at all - i wonder why?)
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Yikes! Don't like snakes, but live and let live. Anyway, it would have dropped me....
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So what are the stats on cyclists killed by Coral Snakes?
About as many as are killed by lightning.
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I recall the rhyme
"Red next to black is a friend of Jack
Red next to yellow is a deadly fellow"

STAND BACK JACK, THAT'S A DEADLY FELLOW.

I was riding the trail over the weekend and encountered a harmless garter snake sunning itself. I stopped and shooed him off the trail before someone ran him over. Some folks would use him as target practice.

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Coral snakes have deadly venom, but lack fangs. All they have li little nubby teeth. I don't think anyone in the US has ever been killed by one. Pretty snakes.

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Here in So. Illinois I often have multiple snake sightings on a single ride. Only venemous one I saw this year was a copperhead on the Katy just outside of Weldon Springs.
The other day I swerved my car to miss the BIGGEST black snake I have ever seen. Then I looked in my rearview mirror to see a minivan behind me swerve to hit the snake. Oh well, what can you do?
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If I saw one, I'd move a few feet away, stop and watch it for a while. I like watching snakes move, they are really quick for something with no feet or legs.
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That snake must be pretty fast - it has yellow and red and NO WHITE.
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I recall the rhyme
"Red next to black is a friend of Jack
Red next to yellow is a deadly fellow"
The southern version of the mnemonic is, "Red 'n yella kill a fella. Red 'n black, friend ah Jack."

I killed two coral snakes and a copper head in my back yard many moons ago when we lived south of Houston. The third coral snake got way from me before I could dispatch him. I brought formaldehyde from the lab, but didn't dilute it enough. It kinda bleached them out. I didn't worry about grass snakes, but the venomous ones had to go.
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According to Wikipedia, no one in the US has been killed by a Coral Snake since antivenom became available.
But that doesn't mean that it's OK to pick one up to pet.
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Here in So. Illinois I often have multiple snake sightings on a single ride. Only venemous one I saw this year was a copperhead on the Katy just outside of Weldon Springs.
Been there. A copperhead is more aggressive than the timber rattlers we have around here. So I would have stayed far away from that one.
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Red followed by yellow...is a dead fellow!
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