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    Too old for this

    Went for a long mountain bike ride yesterday and had my first bad crash in 20 years. Stuck the front wheel, went over the bars, and tumbled down a 40 foot drop. Feeling pretty beat up today, but I'm thankful to be here to write this.
    I wanted to tell Big Paulie about my friend who has both an Atlantis amd a Rambouilet. He put knobbies on the Atlantis and rode it with us up there. He said the Atlantis is indeed more stable than the Rambouilet, but it's not a huge difference. There are a few pics in the thread, including one of Pete and his Atlantis.
    Mountain Bike Ride 10/20

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    Thats the problem with mountain biking- Get the adrenalyn and the Blood flowing. Hope you recover fast enough to get out next week- but Have a good stiff Scotch on us and forget about the Aches and pain.

    Perhaps too old for the falls but that looked a good trail to ride.




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    Quote Originally Posted by stapfam View Post
    Thats the problem with mountain biking- Get the adrenalyn and the Blood flowing. Hope you recover fast enough to get out next week- but Have a good stiff Scotch on us and forget about the Aches and pain.

    Perhaps too old for the falls but that looked a good trail to ride.




    If the Scotch doesn't work- try Brandy.
    Thanks, but, being an alcoholic, I'll have to stick with Ibuprofen.
    That ride is quite an adventure, starting with a 3 hour climb on pavement turning to fire road up to about 5000 feet. From there it's 15 miles of singletrack with high speed turns, dark shaded climbs, cliffs, creek crossings, and walk sections. Truly a bit of everything. 7 hours for the whole thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big john View Post
    Thanks, but, being an alcoholic, I'll have to stick with Ibuprofen.
    Me too. I've got 19 years, 5 months and 21 days.

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    Mountain bikers, simply put, are loons. Out and out crazy. Nut cases. Whack jobs. Falling down is bad, it hurts, and bad things can happen that are not easily repaired. Trails are for hiking, not biking. Roads are for bikes. Knobby tires are for children. That said, get well soon and congrats on the sobriety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerlenbach@cfl. View Post
    Mountain bikers, simply put, are loons. Out and out crazy. Nut cases. Whack jobs. Falling down is bad, it hurts, and bad things can happen that are not easily repaired. Trails are for hiking, not biking. Roads are for bikes. Knobby tires are for children. That said, get well soon and congrats on the sobriety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerlenbach@cfl. View Post
    Mountain bikers, simply put, are loons. Out and out crazy. Nut cases. Whack jobs. Falling down is bad, it hurts, and bad things can happen that are not easily repaired. Trails are for hiking, not biking. Roads are for bikes. Knobby tires are for children. That said, get well soon and congrats on the sobriety.
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    Having done headers over the bars on mountainbikes before, I am glad to hear you came out of it with no more damage than feeling beat up. A 40 foot tumble! Yikes! Never-the-less, that seems like a great place to ride if you keep the adrenaline under control. Doing seven hours offroad sounds like a marvelous way to spend the day.
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    I loved Mtn biking. But I simply got too old. A guy I know, our age, had his frame
    fail last year on his Mtn bike. Died a couple days later from complications. He was a good man.

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    I still love off-road biking, but this has given me someting to think about. This lapse of concentration thing isn't sometihng I have a history of. I've ridden off-road motorcycles and road and off-road bicycles for 30 years, and the worst crash I ever had was on the road bike on the bike path. I hope to be able to go riding by Wednesday.
    Thank for your well wishes.

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    I'm glad your ok. If your like me your going riding anyway, just sometimes I go a little slower and more carefully upon reflection on how long it will take to heal.

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    Whoa, that sounds like a nasty fall. I'm glad you're ok.

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    The one reason I now only ride on the road.....or on Rails to Trails types of trails.

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    Glad you are ok...

    I must be doing something wrong....
    I go fast down hills on rough tracks...
    I push it when maybe I shouldn't...
    I'm 62 and should have more brains...
    But I've never fallen off...
    I'll keep trying.

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    i donot think you are too old. I saw an 80+ MB in a race last year.

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    What I meant was too old to fall down a cliff. I think I'll avoid that trail from now on. Part of it is cut into the steep walls of the gorge, so if you fall off the bike, you could fall for a while. Certainly many of the trails I ride are safer than the highway, but I spend most of my bike time on the road. Plenty of time on Bike Forums today, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerlenbach@cfl. View Post
    Mountain bikers, simply put, are loons. Out and out crazy. Nut cases. Whack jobs. Falling down is bad, it hurts, and bad things can happen that are not easily repaired. Trails are for hiking, not biking. Roads are for bikes. Knobby tires are for children. That said, get well soon and congrats on the sobriety.
    Good one!

    Sorry to hear about your crash, Big John. Glad you weren't hurt worse and hope you'll heal quickly.

    I had a good MTB ride today. A couple of friends and I took a drive to the area's best trials, Dauset Trails near Jackson, GA. We rode singletrack for over 3 hours (with a few stops to catch our breath).
    The more you ride your bike, the less your ass will hurt.

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    Thanks BD. Feeling a lot of new soreness this morning, but getting ready for work in a few minutes. I live in the foothills and the Agua Dulce fire is over a couple ridges, maybe 20 miles from here. Fires all over Southern California.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big john View Post
    Thanks BD. Feeling a lot of new soreness this morning, but getting ready for work in a few minutes. I live in the foothills and the Agua Dulce fire is over a couple ridges, maybe 20 miles from here. Fires all over Southern California.
    Glad you're feeling okay this morning.

    I've been watching the fires on the news....terrible. Hope they stay out of your neighborhood.
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    Hi bigjohn,

    Hope to see you up at Angeles Crest again when the fires are all out! Good to hear you survived the 40' drop. Not really far enough to use a parachute, huh?

    Hope you did a "tuck and roll" kind of thing . . . still . . . 40' is a long way to fall!

    After 6 crashes in '06 I've been keeping the rubber side down for all of '07 (so far). Got hit by a very strong cross-wind Sat. on the Solvang Fall Double; almost ruined my record! Moved me out about 2' into the traffic lane, but thankfully no motor vehicles were close! And somehow I kept the bike upright!

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    No Rick, no tuck-and -roll. I actually didn't know I was falling down the gorge. I knew i was going over the bars when I slammed into the trail, then I couldn't figure out why I kept getting hit. It knocked the wind out of me, and I got up once I realized I could stand, and my Camelbak was on my left wrist and I couldn't find my bike. It was still on the trail above me.
    How was the double? Sounds like you had some serious wind. Did you see anybody we know ?

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    Yes big john,

    I saw whitecarbondude (Jon) a few times during the day (he was always faster than me!) and Lee (scvroadie) working the 2nd and 5th Checkpoints.

    Yes, the wind was usually horrible, but occasionally (like coming out of Guadalupe) it was a wonderful tail-wind!

    Side winds are very dangerous, as detailed above, but headwinds are just a challenge. We did have a good tail-wind on Santa Rosa road, for the last 25 miles to Buellton / Solvang. Daylight lasted just until the final checkpoint, but the Nite-Rider brought me home. The bike worked perfectly, no mechanicals or flats, so that always makes the whole ride more enjoyable.

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    So I bought a new helmet today and went for a short ride, (the old one was broken and dented in the crash). I felt O.K. and want to do a longer ride Saturday. I need to talk to the doc about the report I got from the radiologist. It said I had a "faint calcification of the aortic arch". It also said I have 20% compression of 2 mid-thoracic vertebrae but that might be an old motorcycle injury.
    Right now it feels like I got punched in the kidney and hit on the shoulder with a bat.

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    Yes big john,

    You may just want to rest and take a few days off the bike. Yeah, yeah, easier said than done and who am I to be telling you to do something that I would find very difficult . . .

    Still, a few days off the bike to let your body recover would be the smart move (not that I'd do it myself!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick@OCRR View Post
    Yes big john,

    You may just want to rest and take a few days off the bike. Yeah, yeah, easier said than done and who am I to be telling you to do something that I would find very difficult . . .

    Still, a few days off the bike to let your body recover would be the smart move (not that I'd do it myself!).

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