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  • Neither. Bush's fault, like everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital Gee View Post
    Can one feel plussed?

    Then again, can a crowd be ruly?

    Can someone you're dating be kempt?

    Can an employee be gruntled?
    OK what a challenge! So I got out the dictionary.

    Unruly comes from reuly or easy to govern or reule to rule. I guess it is an English adaptation of the French word.

    Unkempt comes from kempt to comb.

    Disgruntled comes from gruntled to complain.

    and non-plussed comes from plused, plusing, pluses, plussed, plussing or plusses which means to think, say or do.

    So yes, some can be ruly, kempt, gruntled and plused. So what's your point? Guess I'm gruntled!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCIpam View Post
    OK what a challenge! So I got out the dictionary.

    Unruly comes from reuly or easy to govern or reule to rule. I guess it is an English adaptation of the French word.

    Unkempt comes from kempt to comb.

    Disgruntled comes from gruntled to complain.

    and non-plussed comes from plused, plusing, pluses, plussed, plussing or plusses which means to think, say or do.

    So yes, some can be ruly, kempt, gruntled and plused. So what's your point? Guess I'm gruntled!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital Gee View Post
    Can one feel plussed?

    Then again, can a crowd be ruly?

    Can someone you're dating be kempt?

    Can an employee be gruntled?
    Boy, am I glad your back...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCIpam View Post
    OK what a challenge! So I got out the dictionary.

    Unruly comes from reuly or easy to govern or reule to rule. I guess it is an English adaptation of the French word.

    Unkempt comes from kempt to comb.

    Disgruntled comes from gruntled to complain.

    and non-plussed comes from plused, plusing, pluses, plussed, plussing or plusses which means to think, say or do.

    So yes, some can be ruly, kempt, gruntled and plused. So what's your point? Guess I'm gruntled!
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmaxx View Post
    High performance MTB rims are Presta.
    I've chatted on this subject with a guy who owns 5 bike shops. He told me that he had been told by the manufacturers of high end mountain bikes that the only reason they were using Presta was the snob factor. High end road bikes all used Presta and people dropping big bucks on a mountain bike wanted the look of having Presta too. It is one of the little differentiators between a lower-end and higher-end bike. More of a style factor than a function factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCIpam View Post
    OK what a challenge! So I got out the dictionary.

    Unruly comes from reuly or easy to govern or reule to rule. I guess it is an English adaptation of the French word.

    Unkempt comes from kempt to comb.

    Disgruntled comes from gruntled to complain.

    and non-plussed comes from plused, plusing, pluses, plussed, plussing or plusses which means to think, say or do.

    So yes, some can be ruly, kempt, gruntled and plused. So what's your point? Guess I'm gruntled!
    Well, then I'm comboboluted...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulH View Post
    My bike came with Prestas, so I am a Presta guy, but not by choice. On the other hand, as long as the little brass adapter doesn't get lost, they are only a little bit more hassle than Schroeder valves.

    I'm not convinced of Presta superiority. If they are so good, why don't cars and aircraft use them?

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    I am a Presta guy on both my roadie and my MTB. Why, you say? They have less air resistance due to their smaller diameter! Besides, you think Lance uses Schrader-equipped tubes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital Gee View Post
    Well, then I'm comboboluted...
    NOT IN THE DICTIONARY!

    Actually have to stop looking things up - my reading glasses aren't that strong and the words are too small. It sucks getting old!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCIpam View Post
    NOT IN THE DICTIONARY!

    Actually have to stop looking things up - my reading glasses aren't that strong and the words are too small. It sucks getting old!
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nonplussed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital Gee View Post
    Can one feel plussed?

    Then again, can a crowd be ruly?

    Can someone you're dating be kempt?

    Can an employee be gruntled?
    That was an ept observation by someone who is clearly combobulated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doctor j View Post
    That was an ept observation by someone who is clearly combobulated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil View Post
    I've chatted on this subject with a guy who owns 5 bike shops. He told me that he had been told by the manufacturers of high end mountain bikes that the only reason they were using Presta was the snob factor. High end road bikes all used Presta and people dropping big bucks on a mountain bike wanted the look of having Presta too. It is one of the little differentiators between a lower-end and higher-end bike. More of a style factor than a function factor.
    A survey of 25 MTB rims available at Jensen USA (certainly not a statistically ballanced survey) showed 9 of 25 rims to have Schrader valve holes..............7 of those from Alex Rims ( a notorious provider of low end rims to the stars). Those providing presta..........Mavic, Surly, DT Swiss, Salsac Velocity Aeroheads and most of the Sun/Sun Ringle.

    It is more likely that high end MTB's come with presta's because high end Rim manufacturers use them than other reasons.

    This in no way determines the reasons or rightness of why these rim manufacturers choose to do this. It could be as simple as "tradition".

    Edit: Then it is hard to explain that my Mavic Crossrides (low entry point high end rim...) came drilled for Schrader but with and insert to neck them down to Presta. The insert thing is nice because it provides a nice smooth bushing with no burs or sharp edges for the stem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmaxx View Post

    It is more likely that high end MTB's come with presta's because high end Rim manufacturers use them than other reasons.
    His point, and I have to give him some credibility as he has been a LBS owner for 25+ years, has been highly successful in building a small chain of stores and is a high volume dealer for several major brands, is that these wheel manufacturers had to switch to presta in order to sell their high end wheels. That cyclists wanted the "European" look of prestas on their wheels instead of the more pedestrian schrader valves. He said that he has received that same comments hundreds of times and it was almost never because the buyer liked the functionality of presta, but they wanted the styling.

    Note this was from mountain bike buyers. Although he added that with modern materials, one doesn't need the smaller hole of the presta even on road bike wheels, however it would be a waste of time to try to sell them unless a popular Tour de France cyclist would use schrader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Weak Link View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital Gee View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by yohannrjm View Post
    I've only got into riding road bikes over the last year, so I'm new to Presta's.

    I have no problems changing tubes. The only hassle is getting the pump off the valve after filling. I always wind up losing air when I do that.

    Maybe I still haven't got the hang of it.
    You are not losing air out of the tire. The hiss you hear is air escaping from the pump hose.

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    The only advantage that I can think of that schrader valves have over presta is that you can pump the tires up at a gas station without an adapter.

    I have bikes with both.
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