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    Anyone Riding in the Upper Midwest this coming Weekend?

    I see that the Madison, WI area predicted high on Saturday is 0 with a low of -7. Warming on Sunday to a high of 7 and low of -1.

    Green Bay, where the insanity of TV contracts has the Packers hosting the Giants in a night game (5:30 local start, playing until 8:30 or 9:00), the Sunday prediction is a high of 6 and low of 2. Players and fans won't even get the benefit of getting a little warmth from the sun.

    In Northern Wisconsin, the Saturday temps are predicted to a be a high of -1 and low of -13. Same is true for Minneapolis.

    I see Michigan will be warmer, with Battle Creek having Saturday temps of 15/7.

    Anyone planning to go out for a ride?

    Howse about you, Solveg, with all of your cold weather set up on the Scott? Feel like braving sub-zero temps?
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    I'm afraid that the Giants will be somewhat shriveled this week.

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    I'll be up in Eau Claire, WI this weekend, and I'm sure I'll be biking around with some friends there. I don't see them often enough not to. I've got some nice cross country ski gear that works great for biking as well. Definitely be wearing goggles, too.
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    We don't plan on riding in the lower midwest either. With the temps in the teens, the winds in the teens and the windchill factor in the minus range.....I plan on being indoors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheKingFiphtin View Post
    I'll be up in Eau Claire, WI this weekend, and I'm sure I'll be biking around with some friends there.
    We have a very brave soul here. Eau Claire's weather is supposed to be bitterly cold. Prediction for noon on Saturday is -6 air temp, 8 mph wind, -20 wind chill factor. If you plan to go out early in the morning it's worse, -11 predicted at 9 am.

    -11 is as close to freezing point as 75 is. One is 43 degrees colder, the other 43 degrees warmer. So if the temp drops from 75 to 32, you are only halfway to dropping to -11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil View Post
    We have a very brave soul here. Eau Claire's weather is supposed to be bitterly cold. Prediction for noon on Saturday is -6 air temp, 8 mph wind, -20 wind chill factor. If you plan to go out early in the morning it's worse, -11 predicted at 9 am.

    -11 is as close to freezing point as 75 is. One is 43 degrees colder, the other 43 degrees warmer. So if the temp drops from 75 to 32, you are only halfway to dropping to -11.

    Check back in and report your ride!
    Here in the Upper Middle Midwest of Central Southeast Michigan we're expecting snow and 15 or so, but if I don't get some pedaling time in I'll die next Saturday at teh Ann Arbor Worst Day of the Year 40! I also have to test out some winter kit options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beverly View Post
    We don't plan on riding in the lower midwest either. With the temps in the teens, the winds in the teens and the windchill factor in the minus range.....I plan on being indoors.
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    I'll be riding.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheKingFiphtin View Post
    I'll be up in Eau Claire, WI this weekend, and I'm sure I'll be biking around with some friends there. I don't see them often enough not to. I've got some nice cross country ski gear that works great for biking as well. Definitely be wearing goggles, too.
    Best wishes on a fine ride which ends with at least the more important body parts still unfrozen. Perhaps you and the friends could arrange a pure tailwind route?
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    Heck yeah, I'm going out! Just to be able to say I did. Plus, it will make other winter riding feel Oh-so-good! If you think about it, there's a 40 degree real-feel between this weekend and last weekend. I think I'm going to go check out the National Pond Hockey tournament.

    Real-Feel™ on Saturday will be 25 below!

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    That -25 Real Feel wind chill doesn't take your bike movement into account. If you are riding at 15 mph into the headwind, the Real Feel temp will be somewhere around -40 to -45 (that is, if you are riding when it is -25).
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    It was a little chilly here, too. I went down to the harbor and snapped a pic. I ride past this scenery many a weekend, but during the daytime.

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    What is the "Real Feel" thing you all speak of so reverently?

    Is it in any way like reaching second base?

    Or more serious, like reaching third?

    Does it involve Cal Ripkin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Paulie View Post
    What is the "Real Feel" thing you all speak of so reverently?

    Is it in any way like reaching second base?

    Or more serious, like reaching third?

    Does it involve Cal Ripkin?
    Real Feel is Accuweather's version of windchill. I'm on a mac, so it's my widget. I don't understand why they changed the actual windchill factor. If this weekend occurred 5 years ago, it would probably be a 35 below windchill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital Gee View Post
    It was a little chilly here, too. I went down to the harbor and snapped a pic. I ride past this scenery many a weekend, but during the daytime.
    Very nice. Really, nice photo.

    But seriously, where is the snow?
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    I know. He put that in to make us feel jealous, but all we do is feel bad for him that he doesn't have any snow....

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    I don't think that St Louis qualifies as upper midwest. (Actually, southeast Missouri might be considered part of the south.) Anyway, we have 7 degrees predicted for tomorrow. That's not nearly enough farenheidts to suit me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post
    I don't think that St Louis qualifies as upper midwest. (Actually, southeast Missouri might be considered part of the south.) Anyway, we have 7 degrees predicted for tomorrow. That's not nearly enough farenheidts to suit me.
    I would say St. Louis is the Central Lower Upper Midwest, at least in the winter.

    I've had a few St. Louis winters - that 7 degrees can be worse that Chicago's 7 degrees!

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    Sure, just to have the brag rights...at least to the library and coffee shop. Sub zero isn't bad but I just hate the wind!

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    We've had the Midwest discussion before. There are two generally accepted definitions for that constitutes the "Midwest." The traditional definition does not include Missouri, or the Dakotas, Kansas, Nebraska, Kentucky or West Virginia. The U.S. Census includes all but Kentucky & WV in their regional summary data for the Midwest. A few references also include Kentucky & WV into an expanded "super" Midwest.

    If one is not including KT & WV, then southern Missouri is barely within the Midwest and would indeed be the southernmost portion of the region.

    Traditionally the Dakotas, Nebraska, Kansas and Oklahoma were considered to the Great Plains states. But the U.S. Census has no such group defined. Missouri was sometimes included in Great Plains region and sometimes included in the South.

    The gist of it is that no region wants to claim Missouri and it should pretty much just be left alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by solveg View Post
    I know. He put that in to make us feel jealous, but all we do is feel bad for him that he doesn't have any snow....
    I don't feel bad for him for having no snow!!!!! I am jealous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil View Post
    We've had the Midwest discussion before. There are two generally accepted definitions for that constitutes the "Midwest." The traditional definition does not include Missouri, or the Dakotas, Kansas, Nebraska, Kentucky or West Virginia. The U.S. Census includes all but Kentucky & WV in their regional summary data for the Midwest. A few references also include Kentucky & WV into an expanded "super" Midwest.

    If one is not including KT & WV, then southern Missouri is barely within the Midwest and would indeed be the southernmost portion of the region.

    Traditionally the Dakotas, Nebraska, Kansas and Oklahoma were considered to the Great Plains states. But the U.S. Census has no such group defined. Missouri was sometimes included in Great Plains region and sometimes included in the South.

    The gist of it is that no region wants to claim Missouri and it should pretty much just be left alone.

    To be honest, I don't think of Minnesota or Wisconsin as being midwest. We're the "great north".

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    Quote Originally Posted by solveg View Post
    To be honest, I don't think of Minnesota or Wisconsin as being midwest. We're the "great north".
    Nope. You're "the great white north".

    Q. What do people in Minnesota do during the summer.
    A. If it comes on a weekend they usually go swimming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post

    Q. What do people in Minnesota do during the summer.
    A. If it comes on a weekend they usually go swimming.

    That is really* cute! I've never heard that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post
    Q. What do people in Minnesota do during the summer.
    A. If it comes on a weekend they usually go swimming.
    This was said by someone who has never walked out into Lake Superior in July. I don't know how anyone ever swims there.
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