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Old 01-18-08, 01:26 PM   #1
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Will my CO2 explode?

If it's -10, will my CO2 cartridges explode?
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Old 01-18-08, 01:30 PM   #2
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er, a gas becomes less reactive as temperature decreases. Unless the cartridges are really brittle............
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Do you mean implode?

Easy answer- No.

More complicated answer- Can't give one as my brain does not work that way- but I dare say some one will give you the technicalities of a scientific answer.
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Thanks. I just had images of schrapnel.
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Probably won't implode until you get closer to zero degK. If you're really lucky, you may even trip across the point where you get a Bose-Einstein condensate. Then, the condensate might just leak out.
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- if you're worried about cartridge temperature, there's at least one way to carry and ensure your CO2 cartridge stays at a constant 98.6F...

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Actually, there's protection available that will address Solveg's concern...
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- if you're worried about cartridge temperature, there's at least one way to carry and ensure your CO2 cartridge stays at a constant 98.6F...:-)
I'm puzzled by the quantitative reference, "at least one way."

By all means, linux, go into further detail so we may all be safe when we ride with CO2...


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I'm not sure about the CO2 cartridges used for tire air, but as the former Aviation Life Support Officer I can tell you that with our CO2 cartridges for our May West Vests and Survival Rafts we did not experience any issues from really hot - desert climates to -65 degrees F. (that is without wind chill).

I can tell you that the darn things will loose pressure / gas over time and you can weigh a new one, if you can find it, and then weigh yours and determine if it will even work any longer. I wouldn't suggest subjecting it to a hair dryer, clothes dryer or flame. I have seen them make really neat rockets, especially the big ones. Of course we were using a nail to puncture the seal to officially test viability of a given group (yea right - it was fun and the tether ball pole was a great launcher). Don't do this at home!
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If you want shrapnel, take an empty cylinder and fill it half full of ffff black powder, stuff a piece of cannon fuse in it, apply match and throw it as far as you can. It also makes a really sweet bang.

I enjoyed my childhood.

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Thanks. I just had images of schrapnel.
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Speaking of low temperatures I have to travel to St. Paul MN next week. I live in Southern California. It's 65 degrees out and I am freezing! I wear a winter coat when it's 50! It's like going to be 5 degrees today in MN (not counting the wind chill). Will I die??????
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If you want shrapnel, take an empty cylinder and fill it half full of ffff black powder, stuff a piece of cannon fuse in it, apply match and throw it as far as you can. It also makes a really sweet bang.

I enjoyed my childhood.
Can't find anything finer than fff in my area.
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If you want shrapnel, take an empty cylinder and fill it half full of ffff black powder, stuff a piece of cannon fuse in it, apply match and throw it as far as you can. It also makes a really sweet bang.

I enjoyed my childhood.
We used to fill them with match heads. Lucky we didn't win a Darwin Award.
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Speaking of low temperatures I have to travel to St. Paul MN next week. I live in Southern California. It's 65 degrees out and I am freezing! I wear a winter coat when it's 50! It's like going to be 5 degrees today in MN (not counting the wind chill). Will I die??????
I've seen visiting football players almost in tears from the cold. How long are you going to be here? I can loan you some good winter gear for your stay. Maybe we can even go for a bike ride!
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Can't find anything finer than fff in my area.
You can take the fff and grind it up with a hammer on a steel table until it is the size of ffff
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Speaking of low temperatures I have to travel to St. Paul MN next week. I live in Southern California. It's 65 degrees out and I am freezing! I wear a winter coat when it's 50! It's like going to be 5 degrees today in MN (not counting the wind chill). Will I die??????

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Speaking of low temperatures I have to travel to St. Paul MN next week. I live in Southern California. It's 65 degrees out and I am freezing! I wear a winter coat when it's 50! It's like going to be 5 degrees today in MN (not counting the wind chill). Will I die??????
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Pam,

I am sorry to inform you that, yes, you will die. You will be killed in a freak accident when a CO2 cartridge explodes in sub-zero Minnesota temps and you are ripped apart by the shrapnel.

I truly am sorry.

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See............that's what cold does to you.
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Low temps predicted for Minneapolis over the next several days:

-7, -15, -7, -5, 2, -9, 0

Maybe Pam can join Solveg for a ride! Solveg certainly has an extra bike (or two, or three) for her to ride. And by that time Solveg will be an expert in riding in sub-zero temps. What a wonderful learning opportunity this is going to be for Pam!
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Pam.........you'll probably live. It just won't feel like it.
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Low temps predicted for Minneapolis over the next several days:

-7, -15, -7, -5, 2, -9, 0

Maybe Pam can join Solveg for a ride! Solveg certainly has an extra bike (or two, or three) for her to ride. And by that time Solveg will be an expert in riding in sub-zero temps. What a wonderful learning opportunity this is going to be for Pam!
I do believe the NB 26 would be JUST her size. She could bring it home with her.

How about it Pam? It's only -13 right now.... you're the adventurous kind, and I wouldn't let you freeze solid or anything! I'll bet you've never ridden your bike across a lake before!
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You can take the fff and grind it up with a hammer on a steel table until it is the size of ffff
Don't do this. Seriously. It could go off and mess you up.

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