TRaffic Jammer

^^^It's the reason I don't ride with music, if I can't hear overtaking traffic I may as well just go throw myself under some wheels and be done with it.^^^ Music and activity need to be somewhere you can be safe from others.

mazpr

I even get the regular jogger when riding outside on the street, as you know they run against traffic so they are on the bike lane. What do bothers me is when they stay exactly in the middle of the bike lane knowing there is heavy traffic making it literally impossible to pass by him.

I dont know if they like to play chicken or are just blind and cant see the big bike logo on the asphalt...

cooker

I don't think that's a fair comment. On normal roads we have the right to share with motor vehicles, and expect them to accomodate us. On multi-use paths we have to share with pedestrians and we must accomodate them. However, when it comes to a sidewalk, a bike lane, or a freeway, we each have our own dedicated space, and inappropriate users need to stay out of it.

BFD

I'm with you, John E. On those days in the summer along 101, Holy Freakin Circus!

What should we do, perhaps a letter to the Cities Of suggeting they mandate something? Maybe they'll paint a dividing line and seperate us? I'll sign a letter. Perhaps it'll take a crash or a fight to get something changed out there.

staehpj1

Do we know that joggers are not allowed on the lane in question? Is there any indication that joggers are specifically dis-allowed there? Just curious.

JoeyBike

Glad someone took up for skaters a bit. I used to speed skate some multi-use trails with the wife. I use a helmet mounted mirror biking or skating so no prob. We would just stop pushing off for a couple seconds enuf for the faster cyclist to go by, then resume skating. I would look over my shoulder just as the cyclist caught up so he knows I see him, give a little wave of my hand to motion him to go by.

We would skate along between 15-19 mph, so most of our problems were not cyclist related anyway. Three dog leashes across the path makes for interesting skating tho!

Timtruro

You are right on, the Minuteman trail is one of the worst I have ever been on in terms of rude, disrespectful novices, stroller pushers, bladers etc, etc etc. enjoyed t h craigs list rant.

2manybikes

It's different all over the place. In my state, it just means bikes have the right of way. No one, not pedestrians or cyclists know the rule.


Not really. It varies all over the place. There are plenty of places where it is legal to ride bikes on the sidewalk. And to walk and drive cars in a bike lane. And some places it is legal to ride a bike on the freeway. People move around and think the laws apply eveywhere, they don't. It's a big world out there.

Use google to see laws and path rules in different locations. Most are on line.

TRaffic Jammer

those retractable leashes are of Satan and His Blues Band.

2manybikes

I use short leashes around bikes or cars, bright orange with reflective tape..................... not
black !!!!!!! I walk on the grass next to the bike path, not the pavement.

why do they make any dog leashes black ?? !!

TRaffic Jammer

I know you've posted it before 2manybikes, but what head light is shining in your sig?

Chaco

The worst place on my ride is 101 in Carlsbad. There is a nice 8 ft. wide sidewalk, and a bike lane. The traffic is typically going 40 to 50 mph, though the speed limit is 35. Even though there is plenty of room, joggers typically run in the bike lane, forcing bicyclists into the traffic.

TRaffic Jammer

that's just rude on such a road. Heisman time!!!!

2manybikes

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solveg

If every biker would start screaching "ON YOUR LEFT" constantly, starting about 150 feet behind them, and continue for 100 feet ahead of them, they'd get so sick of it they'd get on the pedestrian path....

BluesDawg

I have it on good authority that Satan is in a pop country band. Blues is the soundtrack in heaven.

JoeMan

Hey guys chill. I love to bike and run. Try running sometimes it can be fun and can make you a better biker. Runners see bikers go by with double wide butts and $3000.00 bikes and wonder why bother. The guys who come buy on beaters are usually thought of as rehab bikers who got their license taken away by the court. There's room for all with a little courtesy and a sense of humor.

DnvrFox

Jogger or walker problems?







30 miles of fun!

rideon7

From the article: "Pedestrians literally . . . clog the path like low density lipo-proteins in bacon fueled arteries."

Great simile. I'll use it in my English class today.

BSLeVan

Hmmm. Interesting set of assumptions here. Many folks here have tried running and some switched to cycling because running was beating up their knees, hips, or others parts of their bodies. I suspect you are also assuming that cycling is primarily a fitness activity, or the width of someone's backside wouldn't be an issue. For some fitness is a possible side effect of riding, but it's not the primary reason they ride. And what's with the "rehab bikers" comment? In the area where I live there are a lot of students, messengers, connoisseurs of older bikes (PastorBob, a former frequent contributor to this forum comes to mind), and others who ride what might be called "beaters". Yes, I did read your last line, and with that I wholeheartedly agree. I even like the new Allstate Insurance commerical that is airing in my area right now. The announcers says that it's time we started treating others like they were guests in our homes and not something in our way.

shmulb

Agree, but all too often the courtesy is one way. It is much easier for a jogger to take a step sideways off the path for 3 steps than for the cyclist to swerve, possibly into traffic, at a much higher speed.
Maybe we should all sign up on some jogger forums and flood them with all these posts ?

stonecrd

I deal with joggers in the bike lane all of the time and really don't have a problem with it. I will just move into the car lane for the few feet and seconds it takes me to pass them. There is one guy though who for some reason wants me to pass him on the inside and always moves into the car lane which I would prefer he didn't do. Also I find a lot of early morning or late evening joggers don't wear reflective clothing or use a blinky which makes them very hard to see. I do not ride MUPs.

solveg

I always admire them too much to want them to move. They're in a zone like I'm not. If I was* "in the zone" I'd be going too fast for them to move out of the way, or I'd be so out of breath I wouldn't have enough energy to think about the issue.

John E

California does have a mandatory sidepath law for pedestrians, including the explicit provision that they are to eschew a bike lane in favor of a sidewalk, wherever one is provided.


You, BFD, and I need to get together. I frequent Pacific Coast Highway 101 very early on many weekend mornings and some weekday mornings. My brown Bianchi, red-with-white Capo, and red-white-and-blue mountain bike are all pretty distinctive.

TheKingFiphtin

I haven't had that many problems with joggers on MUPs, and I never see them in the bike lanes. Why would a jogger possibly want to be there? That seems way too risky to me. Both bikes and cars do deal with? I'll pass on that.

As far as joggers and skaters on MUPs, I'm okay with them. I hate when they have their earbuds in, but that's about it. I really don't have a problem with them when I'm biking with my dog. People get out of the way fast when they have a decent sized dog riding thier heels. It's kinda fun when they are totally oblivious, in the middle of the path, and get the s**t scared out of them when they realize we're right behind them. Or go flying past them. I'm really glad my dog is a good bike dog, though. Could get hairy otherwise.