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Old 02-12-08, 08:13 PM   #1
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They moved my post and I'm not allowed to comment.

They moved my rant about the radio guy who brags about trying to scare cyclists by creeping up behind him and honking to startle them. They moved it to politics and religion, and when I went there, I was not allowed to post.

Frankly, although the thread morphed into a political discussion, it wasn't intended as one (which is what I wanted to post). I could care less about Weiner's politics OR religion. I just don't think people should be allowed to encourage criminal behavior on the radio.

As to why I'm blocked, God only knows (to insert a little religion). Must be because of my political viewpoint (to insert a little politics).

Regardless where they move the post (and frankly, I don't care), I stand by my original position. If it's not okay to be overtly racist on the air (and it shouldn't be), then it clearly shouldn't be okay to encourage criminal behavior of any kind.

That's all I want to say.
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Old 02-12-08, 08:23 PM   #2
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Everybody is blocked there at first. You need to make a special request to be unblocked.
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Old 02-12-08, 08:24 PM   #3
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DG, I have not tried to post on P&R, but I have read that you have to register to post there. Something to help keep things from going too crazy, I guess.

Sucks that your thread was first hijacked and then Shanghai'd. Too much of that happening lately.
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Old 02-12-08, 08:27 PM   #4
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To post on P&R you have to reapply for permission. This involves reading the rules and sending them an e-mail swearing that you will abide by the letter and spirit of the rules. A loyalty oath, so to speak. I decilded not to reapply 'cause I'm just a grumpy old dude and I don't need no stinkin' rules. Besides, it looks like the P&R Forum is turning into a sunday school discussion.

Unfortunately, Savage isn't the only jerk out there that thinks scaring cyclists is 'great sport'. It's why I stick to the MUP. bk

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Old 02-12-08, 08:27 PM   #5
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Stay up here where you belong, Deeg. I've been to P&R, and it only brings out the worst in everybody--including myself. I'm never going back.
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Old 02-12-08, 08:29 PM   #6
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Everybody is blocked there at first. You need to make a special request to be unblocked.
That makes me feel better because I was blocked too. I was getting considerably more political than DG so I guess that makes sense.

Just when it was beginning to be fun! It was certainly a lot more fun than talking about who's the oldest.
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Old 02-12-08, 08:46 PM   #7
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Jet Travis has it right. I sure went overboard in the R part of P&R. bk
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Old 02-12-08, 08:54 PM   #8
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I try to keep my politics out of BF. I've never had any desire to post or read anything over there. I hate it when bricks fly through my front window.

On a side note...I once designed a 50 mile bike ride that featured only left turns.
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Old 02-12-08, 08:57 PM   #9
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Old 02-12-08, 09:00 PM   #10
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Jet Travis has it right. I sure went overboard in the R part of P&R. bk
That makes two. I guess maybe it's better if I stay away.

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Old 02-12-08, 09:18 PM   #11
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There was a time when I absolutely loved to argue politics or religion, but somewhere along the way it lost its charm for me. It's always a few people building each other up about how smart they are followed by others telling them they are idiots. Nobody ever learns anything or changes their mind. If anything comes from it at all, I might lose respect for someone I liked before I heard about their absurd beliefs. Better not to know.

Now I prefer to save all the idiotic posturing for college football discussions for one overriding reason. It really doesn't matter at all.
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Just when it was beginning to be fun! It was certainly a lot more fun than talking about who's the oldest.
You'll find it fascinating when we find out. When we did a poll, there was someone who said they were 90+.
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Talking about politics and religion with the goal of trying to change anothers point of view is like trying to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig. (sorry Robert Heinlein).
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Old 02-13-08, 11:30 AM   #17
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Well, if anyone takes objections to any of my posts in that thread, I will never see them, as I never follow a thread out of this forum. Moving it is deleting it as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 02-13-08, 01:25 PM   #18
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I'm against bike tires made of animal fur. It's just cruel. If Budda wants to spend our tax dollars to put fluoride in the water to control gun use, I say let the immigrants in, as long as they don't ride on the sidewalks.
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Old 02-13-08, 01:33 PM   #19
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I'm against bike tires made of animal fur. It's just cruel. If Budda wants to spend our tax dollars to put fluoride in the water to control gun use, I say let the immigrants in, as long as they don't ride on the sidewalks.

[whoops. Posted twice. I guess I must really mean it...]

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I'm against bike tires made of animal fur. It's just cruel. If Budda wants to spend our tax dollars to put fluoride in the water to control gun use, I say let the immigrants in, as long as they don't ride on the sidewalks.
I can see this one will be going into the religion and politics area next. Besides, everyone in Texas knows that the best gun control involves tight shot groups not politicians.

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Reminds me of the other day on my commute to work, I was zipping down Glenmont approaching Rampart in the bike lane trying to avoid mounds of broken beer bottles when I look over and see this guy of uncertain immigration status riding his bike on the sidewalk next to me going in the same direction. I did a double take when I noticed he was riding a nice Trek mtb.
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Is MoveOn.Org a UCI sanctioned cycling team?

Additionally, I agree with Tex Arcana
Tight shot groups - Very Important!
Those of uncertain origin with full on kits and awesome bikes - Amazing isn't it! I see it here in Ca.

Never ask anyone where they are from. If they are from Texas they'll tell you. Otherwise, you don't want to embarrass them.
I are one too!

I can't post there either and really don't care to. I only visit it when one of OUR 50+ Threads gets sent to Thread Purgatory.
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Is MoveOn.Org a UCI sanctioned cycling team?

Additionally, I agree with Tex Arcana
Tight shot groups - Very Important!
Those of uncertain origin with full on kits and awesome bikes - Amazing isn't it! I see it here in Ca.

Never ask anyone where they are from. If they are from Texas they'll tell you. Otherwise, you don't want to embarrass them.
I are one too!

I can't post there either and really don't care to. I only visit it when one of OUR 50+ Threads gets sent to Thread Purgatory.
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Old 02-13-08, 02:22 PM   #23
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Is MoveOn.Org a UCI sanctioned cycling team?

Additionally, I agree with Tex Arcana
Tight shot groups - Very Important!
Those of uncertain origin with full on kits and awesome bikes - Amazing isn't it! I see it here in Ca.

Never ask anyone where they are from. If they are from Texas they'll tell you. Otherwise, you don't want to embarrass them.
I are one too!

I can't post there either and really don't care to. I only visit it when one of OUR 50+ Threads gets sent to Thread Purgatory.
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Old 02-13-08, 03:27 PM   #24
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It has nothing to do with politics. A letter writing campaign works, as demonstrated by the Clear Channel incident a few years ago.

Here's how it works:

1. send a complaint to the FCC. Advocating violence against a group is hate speech. Hate speech is a crime. The station can lose its operating license if it doesn't respond. Send a carbon copy to the station manager.

2. You and all your buddies send an email to the advertisers, with a carbon copy to the manager and the station owner, stating that you are very unhappy that the jock <name here> advocates violence against cyclists, and as a result, you will be forced to boycott them for as long as they advertise on that station, or until the jock is gone.
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DG - you probably figured this out you (or anyone) are not blocked from P & R - you have to request entry. If you have any questions contact Tom Stormcrowe.

I actually spend alot of time there. There have been some changes and recently some of the biggest trouble makers have been asked to leave. There are still some rabble rousters but by and large its a spirited group who constantly amaze me with their knowledge and intellect. You would be most welcome but just a warning, come in with thick skin... it does sometimes get hot.
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