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    Hauled away in an ambulance

    Well, I had an inauspicious start to the season. I went out for my first group ride today. It is described (probably accurately) as a casual, flatish route, with some hills thrown in for interest. From my wussy condition I would describe it as a rolling route with some moderate hills - just what I need to get in shape. At any rate, the ride started out fine, the first leg was about 11 miles to a brief stop to regroup. The second leg went to about mile 24 with a stop at a rec center. As I rode this leg I realized the group was probably riding at about 2 mph over my average. We looked to be averaging maybe 15 MPH. That is pretty mild by standards hereabouts, but my wife and I take our time and enjoy the scenery so I was pushing things a bit. 50+'s Grampster (tcl20010) dropped back to motivate me and his cheerful company kept me moving along. As we topped the last hill and entered the rec center I felt a bit tired but not too bad. I figured I would drop back and take the last leg a little slow.

    Unfortunately, I sort of passed out at the rec center . So I sat down but the dizzyness and spots in front of my eyes remained. I was going to rest for a while and then continue on by myself following the cue sheet in a half hour or so. But after about 10 minutes with no improvement the cooler heads around me prevailed and called an ambulance. The EMTs said my BP was in the dumpster and they measured my pulse at 190 (that is higher than my max and I had been sitting for 15 minutes - I suspect their device misread, but I was way out of sinc). At the hospital they found me quite dehydrated. A bag of juice in the veins and I popped back to what feels like normal a little later.

    The lesson for me is to build up slowly until I am in better shape and to watch the fluids. I will drink more, and learn about electrolytes -- even for short rides. The funny thing was one of the EMTs was back at the hospital a little later and dropped by to chat. Seeing my regular BP and remarking at the 24 miles we had ridden when he pulled me he said "you are in great shape for a 60 yo." I told him he should have checked out the bunch of folks he didn't have to pull - most of them were older than me and were barely breaking a sweat. Heck, Grampster rides out about 8 miles each way from DC just to join the group ride.

    I plan to join this ride again in the future but I will do a little conditioning first. One episode like this adds a little interest to the day, a second would get old
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    Good cautionary tale . . . thanks for posting it.

    Such a bonk-gone-wild could happen to any of us, and it will serve as a reminder for me to watch my pre-ride nutrition and fluids. Glad it turned out well for you.
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    Glad you're ok. Hydration is very important, especially when pushing your limits.

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    HR 190? Holy smokes - my heart would be flying out of my chest at that rate. Glad you're OK - take up drinking next time (water, that is).

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    Next time lay down (not sit) and put your legs up. I'd bet you would have recovered fully in 5 minutes.

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    Glad you're okay DH. Might be wise to run this info by the family doctor on your next visit...which should be tomorrow.

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    Glad to hear you are okay AND that you ride with a great group of folks who truly care about one another!
    God bless you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis View Post
    Glad you're okay DH. Might be wise to run this info by the family doctor on your next visit...which should be tomorrow.
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    I, too, am glad that it was nothing more serious & that you were with people who were thinking straight.
    Oh I used to be disgusted and now I try to be amused. But since their wings have got rusted, you know, the angels wanna wear my red shoes. But when they told me 'bout their side of the bargain, that's when I knew that I could not refuse. And I won't get any older, now the angels wanna wear my red shoes.

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    My goodness-makes for a terrific bike story! Really glad everything turned out okay. Grampster rides tons of miles a year and I could see what a challenge it would be to keep up with him when he puts it in cruise control.

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    Thanks for the note. How we tend to forget a simple thing like water. We all need reminding.
    Again, thanks...and I'm glad you're doing OK!

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    Good Post DH - If I overdo it i get dizzy if i stand up fast , got it checked out (suggest you do also) Dr said my body telling me to slow down and RECOVER -

    Good luck!
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    Spokes Man said it -- a cautionary tale. Eat before you're hungry. Drink before you're thirsty. I appreciate your post. I think I might have just slunk away. Those of us on the 50+ forum might be in better shape than your average senior, but not immune to over doing it, ignoring signs, etc. Thanks again.
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    Glad everything turned out okay.

    Thanks for the reminder to keep fueled and hydrated. It's so easy to forget these items.
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    Glad to year you are OK, DH!

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    You were doing just fine until we stopped at the rec center. If I had any sense at all, I would have been reminding you to drink more. My bad. Fortunately, the paramedics knew just what to do. A little D5W and recovery was on its way.

    We sure hope you will come back to the Weekend Warmup. You add lots to the group. And keep drinking.....
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    Glad you're alright. Thanks for sharing and reminding us all of
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    Monday the high in DC was 46. Today it was 82. Be careful out there with these sudden warm-ups. There's a good chance your body isn't ready for it -- I know mine isn't

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    That must have been a scary moment! I'm glad everything turned out good. +1 on the advice to run it by your doctor.
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    Glad you are OK and we all can learn a lesson!

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    The most severe case of Bonking and dehydration I have come across. Hopefully it can be put down to that.

    Don't be put off by this one event. Train a bit more-Eat better before the ride- and drink a lot more on the ride. So a bit more "Training" before the next ride.

    Give it a week or so before you push yourself that hard again on a ride- but get out soon- get some miles in to check out no lasting effects- and start a bit of interval traing. Normal ride but find the last 200 yards of a slope and sprint it. Then fully recover before you try another one. This will get the body used to a bit more speed- occasionally.

    Glad to see you have recovered well- but check yourself out before you go out with the fast boys again.
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    I think the lesson is to not ride other people's pace when you know you might overdo it.

    Group rides can be quite nasty in their outcomes when one concentrates hard on keeping off the wheel in front, maintaiining line, and generally keeping an eye out for changes of pace that rehydration is almost forgotten. It is *very* easy to leave the bottle in the cage because just reaching for it can put the bike slightly off-line. Plus breathing becomes so fast, that to take a swig can upset the rhythm.

    A heart-rate monitor and check of average speed can provide good clues as to how hard the riding is taking one over the ideal pace, the HR monitor in particular.

    Anyway, good thing you are OK, and will pay moe attention to rehydration on future rides.
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    Glad to hear of a positive outome on this. Maybe build up a little more gradually? Best of luck.

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    I agree w/ Don that the ride is much more "rolling" than it is flat (though the worst hill is at the very end :-), and 35 miles long. Further, this ride occurred on the first warm day of the year, where the temp hit 82. Altogether all sorts of reasons to think that hydration was probably the culprit.

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    Thanks for all the well wishes. The doctors at the hospital told me to go over this with my regular doctor, as did several of you here. I will do that next week. I will also build up slowly and learn about nutrition and hydration. I recently got a heart monitor -- should have been wearing it. All in all I am feeling back to 100%. I retrieved up my bike this morning and was tempted to go out for a spin but my wife is having none of it. Instead we are going to the Air and Space IMAX out by Dulles to see Shine a Light, the Rolling Stones movie, on the giant screen :-)
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