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Old 05-09-08, 04:10 PM   #1
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How to find an empty MUP

As part of my new "Nothing stops a scheduled training ride" policy I rode on an empty MUP today. No people! No "On your left!!!!" It was great! Well except for the stinging rain, 25 mph winds with higher gusts and 50 degree temps. Other than that it was perfect!

Actually it was very good!

Don't let the weather stop your next ride.
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Old 05-09-08, 04:16 PM   #2
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Join me for a ride in Parker - and it is sunny and no wind.





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Join me for a ride in Parker - and it is sunny and no wind.
It that the trail you ride on? How long is it?
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It that the trail you ride on? How long is it?
Directly within my immediate area, about 25 miles one way. However, it connects with a 600 mile trail system. Here are the major trails on the map below. However, there are many more.

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The only time the paved section of the MUP here is empty is when it is pouring rain or snowing.
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Old 05-09-08, 08:02 PM   #6
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A small portion of my commute is on the Pearl Harbor Bike Path. No matter how bad the weather, I am never the only one on the path. I can count on seeing a women with a cane and leg supports, who has had a couple of strokes, walking on the path for her twice a day exercise.
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DF, I'm jealous! OK,maybe just green with envy. I'd love to come there for a visit. Looks like a beautiful place.
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A small portion of my commute is on the Pearl Harbor Bike Path. No matter how bad the weather, I am never the only one on the path. I can count on seeing a women with a cane and leg supports, who has had a couple of strokes, walking on the path for her twice a day exercise.
Despite the pics, of course we have folks on the MUP, but not very many, especially on week days.

We also have a tiny little lady, about 85, who walks with her cane (she had a hip replacement) for miles and miles. I see her all over the place, and frequently talk with her. I've seen her 3 - 4 miles from her home. She walks about 2.5 miles per hour.
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DF, I'm jealous! OK,maybe just green with envy. I'd love to come there for a visit. Looks like a beautiful place.

Did I mention?

That is 25 miles one way with only 4 actual street crossings - all small residential streets. All the rest is underpasses.
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Old 05-09-08, 09:39 PM   #10
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Did I mention?

That is 25 miles one way with only 4 actual street crossings - all small residential streets. All the rest is underpasses.
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The Coyote Creek MUP is pretty much empty most of the time. An occasional walker, runner or cyclist, but not many, for sure. And that's even on a nice day!

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The only time the paved section of the MUP here is empty is when it is pouring rain or snowing.
Not round here.

The mups connect communities and towns and in the "Over" crowded South East of the UK- there are too many commuters using them and far too many dogs that will drag their owners out in all weathers.
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Old 05-10-08, 04:43 AM   #13
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Here are some pictures of the Mohawk Hudson MUP - where you will usually find me riding


This bike trail follows the original route of one of the first rail lines in the US - along the Mohawk river and is almost continuous from the Hudson to Amsterdam and is continually being filled in all the way to Buffalo. Every few miles you pass a lock for the canal - here is lock 7 a few miles from my house
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It looks like NY has a really neat canal trail system:

http://www.nyscanals.gov/exvac/trail/index.html

New York State Canalway Trail System

Here is an interactive map:

http://www.nyscanals.gov/maps/index.html

The New York State Canalway Trail System is comprised of a network of more than 260 miles of existing multi-use, recreational trails across upstate New York. Major segments are adjacent to the waterways of the New York State Canal System (see our map) or follow remnants of the historic original canals of the early 1800s that preceded today's working Canal System.

The Canalway Trail System is comprised of four major segments: the 100-mile Erie Canal Heritage Trail in Western New York; the 36-mile Old Erie Canal State Park Trail in Central New York; the 60-mile Mohawk-Hudson Bikeway in the eastern Capital Region, and the eight-mile Glens Falls Feeder Canal Trail in the foothills of the Adirondacks near Lake George. In addition, there are smaller segments of Canalway Trail.

These trail segments and other areas of the Canalway Trail System connect with trails leading throughout New York State, providing one of the most extensive trail networks in the country.

Canalway Trail Times
Find out what’s going on along the Canalway Trail in the Canalway Trail Times newsletter. The publication contains information on volunteer programs, trail development updates and events from across the corridor. To view the latest edition, please refer to the Parks and Trails New York website.

FOLLOW THE TRAILBLAZERS TO THE CANALWAY TRAIL The major segments of the Canalway Trail are easy to find by following the distinctive trailblazers installed along New York State and local routes.

Purchase the official Canalway Trail Cycling Guide.


Erie Canal Heritage Trail -* a 100-mile Trail between Tonawanda and Newark in Western New York. This Trail segment is designated as a National Recreation Trail and has numerous access points, primarily where local roads intersect. Parking is available at many of the access points. Sign kiosks containing maps and historic information are located at many trailheads. Trail Uses: Hiking, bicycling, cross-country skiing (all sections); horseback riding and snowmobiling in some sections (for details call the Canal Corporation). Trail Surface: Stone dust; some portions in Tonawanda and Rochester are asphalt. Biker-Hiker-Boater Campsites are located at Lock 30 in Macedon and at the Holley Canal Port.

Trail Uses: Hiking, bicycling, cross-country skiing.
Trail Surface: Stone dust, gravel.

Old Erie Canal State Park Trail - a 36-mile Trail within the linear State Park between DeWitt and Rome in Central New York. Designated as a National Recreation Trail, this segment incorporates an abandoned section of the nineteenth century-era Erie Canal. Parking areas with foot-bridge access to the Trail are located at Poolsbrook and Cedar Bay picnic areas within the park.

Trail Uses: Hiking, bicycling, cross-country skiing, horseback riding and snowmobiling. Trail Surface: Stone dust, gravel.

Mohawk-Hudson Bikeway - a 60-mile Trail along the Erie Canal and Mohawk River between St. Johnsville and Waterford in the Capital Region. Many sections of this segment were built on former grades of the nineteenth century Erie Canal towpath. The trail is continuous except for a segment between Rotterdam Junction and Amsterdam, a short segment under Interstate Route 87 (Adirondack Northway) in the Town of Colonie, and short segments in Schenectady and Cohoes. The bikeway route is signed along connecting roadways.*

Trail Uses: Hiking, bicycling, in-line skating and cross-country skiing. Motorized vehicles are not allowed.*
Trail Surface: Stone dust in Montgomery County and on a one-mile segment in Cohoes. Asphalt elsewhere.

Glens Falls Feeder Canal Trail - an eight-mile Trail between Glens Falls and Fort Edward along the historic Feeder Canal near the Hudson River and Old Champlain Canal. The Trail follows the towpath along the Feeder Canal, which is one of the last surviving sections of the original 1820s Canal System. The Feeder Canal was built in the late 1820s to help maintain the water level in the Champlain Canal, since the section between Fort Ann and Fort Edward was higher than the rest of the Canal. A link between the Feeder Canal Trail and the Warren County/Bikeway leading to Lake George is signed along connecting roadways in Glens Falls.*

Trail Uses: Hiking, bicycling, cross-country skiing. Motorized vehicles are not allowed. Trail Surface: Stone dust.

WATCH THE CANALWAY TRAIL SYSTEM GROW

The New York State Canal Corporation's long-range goal for the Canalway Trail System is to create a cross-State network of multi-use trails that will span nearly 500 miles across upstate New York, paralleling major portions of the 524-mile New York State Canal System.

When completed over the next several years, the Trail System will provide a means for those who are not boaters to enjoy the beauty and the history found all along New York's Canals. The System will include both urban and rural trails to meet the needs of both visitors and local residents alike.


Completion of the Trail will involve the creation of partnerships between the New York State Canal Corporation and a variety of organizations, including local governments, not-for-profit organizations, other New York State government agencies, and the National Park Service.

FIND THE CANALWAY TRAIL TODAY

A free map of the New York State Canalway Trail System is available from the New York State Canal Corporation. To obtain a copy, or to learn more about the Canalway Trail, call: Toll-free (800)-4CANAL4 or write: New York State Canal Corporation P.O. Box 189 Albany, NY 12201-0189.

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I had time to get out for a short 10 mile ride on a rail trail today. In the first mile I saw 4 people (2 walking, 2 riding). That's a lot in these parts. But then over the next 9 miles I saw only 5 more, so that comes out to seeing only 1 person per mile. It was overcast, temps in the high 50s, mild breeze. Nice day for riding.
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OK I'll bite, where is that?

I did my 19 mi yesterday,, home to Cherry crk. to confluence. Platte to dartmouth, to home..
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DNVR - How dare you!! You let the whole secret out. Next thing you'll tell us is you are moving to Up State NY

Well - we would welcome you.

NY has a lot of problems - but we have a lot of really great stuff too.
I will need to post pictures if TSL and I do the Idaride in the Adirondacks in Aug - the spectacular beauty will just take your breath away.
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OK I'll bite, where is that?

I did my 19 mi yesterday,, home to Cherry crk. to confluence. Platte to dartmouth, to home..
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Any weekday on the Parker Cherry Creek, Sulphur Gulch trails (far south).

If I go from Cottonwood to Franktown - the trail goes though now, even if it doesn't show on the map - (and on to Castlewood Canyon State Park - which is a road fior 5 miles, but hardly ever used) and then return and include the Sulphur Gulch and the Tallman Gulch trails, I will have gone about 62 miles.

Also, a bunch of us rode from Englewood Golf Course to Confluence Park and back Tuesday - 20 miles.
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Any weekday on the Parker Cherry Creek, Sulphur Gulch trails (far south).

If I go from Cottonwood to Franktown - the trail goes though now, even if it doesn't show on the map - (and on to Castlewood Canyon State Park - which is a road fior 5 miles, but hardly ever used) and then return and include the Sulphur Gulch and the Tallman Gulch trails, I will have gone about 62 miles.

Also, a bunch of us rode from Englewood Golf Course to Confluence Park and back Tuesday - 20 miles.
That sounds like some great riding...Have not been out there for 20+years...will explore it soon....
Off now to downtown via wash park and c/c trail to play 3 cushion..
and back via platte south...The spring rides have dropped my b/p 25 points, so gotta keep it up...
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I will need to post pictures if TSL and I do the Ididaride in the Adirondacks in Aug - the spectacular beauty will just take your breath away.
I sent in my registration. See you there! (Mind you, it'll be only two weeks after I ride out in DF's neck of the woods. I'm expecting to still have my climbing legs.)

On the topic of the Canalway, around here, it's jam packed all weekend and most evenings. Wobble speed is the usual max. At my usual commute times, (lunch and evening) it's filled with joggers, usually with iPods.

Traffic is thin on my Saturday 7:15 AM commute--mostly other cyclists, and mostly moving along. After subbing for a co-worker this evening, it was empty after dark. Nicest ride I've had on it since the weather got nice. I'll have to ride it after dark more often.
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This trail is near our family's cabin in Western PA. Since it does not connect two busy cities it is not busy at all. With the Allegheny River on one side and woods and tree canopy over head this place is special. You need a light as there are also several tunnels to go thru. The Sandy Creek portion of the trail goes up thru a valley with many bridges providing plenty of places to stop and enjoy nature.

http://www.avta-trails.org/allegheny-samuel-trails.html
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