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Old 05-12-08, 09:26 AM   #1
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Hope gas goes to $20 a gallon

Maybe, just maybe then all the idiot teenage drivers will be off the roads. The first decent day of the year, sunny no real wind and 63f to get a ride in and the cars full of teenagers shouting foul things and throwing stuff out the windows are in full force to ruin your ride.

It has been a long time since I was a teenager and I can never remember shouting at cyclists or throwing things at them?
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Nothing in the history of the world has been proven to stop obnoxious teenagers.
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Best part of $13 in UK already. $1.50 here in Bahrain. Obnoxious teenagers both places. Rudeness seems to be pretty price-inelastic
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I don't get mad, I get even. Those are the people who are paying for our Social Security benefits. If you bicycle and stay fit the odds are you're going to live and recieve benefits for a longer period.

When you get the opportunity be sure to tell them.
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I don't get mad, I get even. Those are the people who are paying for our Social Security benefits. If you bicycle and stay fit the odds are you're going to live and recieve benefits for a longer period.

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Nothing in the history of the world has been proven to stop obnoxious teenagers.
Yeah, plus they always seem to be right on the cutting edge of loathsome trends. I didn't even like teenagers when I was a teenager.
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I don't get mad, I get even. Those are the people who are paying for our Social Security benefits. If you bicycle and stay fit the odds are you're going to live and recieve benefits for a longer period.

When you get the opportunity be sure to tell them.
I've already collected far more SSD benefits than I ever paid in and at 52 I should be able to get even more.
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So, food prices aren't high enough already?
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Maybe, just maybe then all the idiot teenage drivers will be off the roads. The first decent day of the year, sunny no real wind and 63f to get a ride in and the cars full of teenagers shouting foul things and throwing stuff out the windows are in full force to ruin your ride.
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Saw a report from a well respected oil industry analyst the other day which predicted that US gas prices will hit $5 within 18 months. And possibly $6 within 3 years.

Also saw a press release from Volkswagen about a new compact car they will be releasing in Europe soon, which will get 72 mpg (U.S. gallons) off of diesel fuel. With lower CO2 emissions than a Toyota Prius hybrid.

As to higher food prices, the U.S. trucking industry is striking back by lowering their truck's maximum cruising speeds. One company restricting theirs to 63, another down to 60. One of the companies has over 10,000 trucks and says that the move will lower their annual fuel costs by over $15 million, due to increase fuel economy.
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Best part of $13 in UK already. $1.50 here in Bahrain. Obnoxious teenagers both places. Rudeness seems to be pretty price-inelastic
I don't think it's quite that expensive in the UK yet.
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I don't think it's quite that expensive in the UK yet.
Not sure of the exact conversion, but it's 111.1p per liter. Which works out to about $8.25 per US gallon.
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Truck speeds

I drove to Southern Illinois from Chicago metro area & back. Majority of trucks were doing 60, a few 55. I drove under 60 & increased my mileage by 15 -20% (as opposed to former speeds of 70-75. It was well worth a little more time. I'm riding my bike to work almost every day & sometimes for errands around town. Hoping to make it a habit .
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Maybe, just maybe then all the idiot teenage drivers will be off the roads.
Stereotype much?

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At these prices I'm going to start dumping Evian into my tank.
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At these prices I'm going to start dumping Evian into my tank.
Spell Evian backwards...
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just remember diesel is 50-60 cents higher than gas ,if gas gets to 6 bucks a gallon, this country will economically go belly up. personally i think the oil bubble will bust before that.sending those dang speculators to the poor house.
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Oil analysts don't expect the oil bubble to burst at all. The USA is but one country buying oil, there are many other customers. Several are now predicting that oil will reach $200/barrel within 18-24 months. That $120 right now is a bargain that we may never see again.

But our price could come down if our dollar gets stronger.
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Having just today gotten back from Germany, I'll tell you that the future of cars is way smaller. They have more small car configurations than I've ever seen in one place. Many look like they will suit you just right. I am rethinking our configuration. Saw a lot of smart cars for two of four, and lots of other doable mini cars. Lot of nicely restored orig. mini coopers were out there.. bk
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Here are some pics of the upcoming Volkswagen Polo BlueMotion, that is achieving 72 mpg in tests. Small, but not tiny like the Smart Car.

http://www.autobloggreen.com/photos/vw-polo-bluemotion/
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I'm fine with 10 bucks a gallon - even $20. Americans only seem to listen to what's good for them when there is a big price-tag attached to it. But, then again, what's this war costing and who's listening? I give up.
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Maybe, just maybe then all the idiot teenage drivers will be off the roads. The first decent day of the year, sunny no real wind and 63f to get a ride in and the cars full of teenagers shouting foul things and throwing stuff out the windows are in full force to ruin your ride.

It has been a long time since I was a teenager and I can never remember shouting at cyclists or throwing things at them?
Even though my memory isn't what it used to be, I CAN still remember throwing stuff. We never threw stuff at cyclists, only because there weren't any.

I figure whatever I get is just the karmic chickens coming home to roost.
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Once during my misspent youth I was in the back seat of my friends 69 chevelle making out with my girlfriend as my buddy was driving about 60 mph down a country road. Suddenly he slammed on the brakes, throwing us on the floor. When I got up and looked around we were passing a man on a funny looking english bike about 2 feet out in the road. My friend came to a stop and I rolled down the window and stuck my head out to yell at the old fool on the bike as he was coming toward us. Just as I got my head out the window the old guy reached behind him and pulled out a small gun and shot it up in the air. The next thing I know I am back on the floor, this time under the girl and my buddy was seriously burning rubber as we sped away. That was the last time I ever even thought about yelling at a cyclist. Like the OP said, stupid teens. I wonder where they get it?
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Get used to it, gang. The oil producers have figured out the Peak Oil thing, and my friend who accurately predicted today's $120/barrel crude price a year ago is now predicting $200 a year from now. Cheap oil has been a dangerous drug addition for American society, and I fully welcome the smack of reality that $5 and $6 / gallon gasoline will bring. (It's $9 currently in Norway.)

One candidate for my next car, the diesel VW Jetta Sportwagen, is coming out in a few months, with a 50mpg highway rating. I am also waiting to see whether we'll be able to get a diesel Audi A4 wagon stateside. I am hoping to see a lot more small sporty station wagons and a lot fewer oversized SUVs in the coming years. I am also hoping to see far more freight shipped via rail instead of on trucks. We were warned in 1973 and again in 1979 with "gas crises," so I have no sympathy whatsoever for anyone who is complaining about the price of gasoline now. The current situation has been remarkably easy to predict for the last three decades, but most people preferred to keep their eyes closed and their ears plugged. Every car I have bought since 1988 has had a 4-cylinder engine.
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So, food prices aren't high enough already?
Fortunately teenagers tend to eat a lot more then 50+ers.
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