Beef with Performance Bicycle
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Save your postage and don't send me a letter wanting me to sign up for your Mastercard Credit Card. How lame........Your letter just joined the hundreds of others I get on an annual basis. Just shows how desperate your company is becoming. If you want to get me to do more business with you, expand your product line and reduce your rates. Hail to the LBS's!!!!
Okay I feel better........
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Keeps the shredder busy. I probably get 2-3 CC apps every day which I get to dice and slice. Seems like an awful waste of paper and I don't think it is a very effective way to market.
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This might sound silly but it worked for me: For awhile every time I got junk mail from a credit card company, I mailed back in the free postpaid envelope the entire contents of the solicitation (including the outer envelope) and wrote, "Take me off your list." It took about six months, but I almost never get solicitations any more. Ah, the joys of being a cranky old man.
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Save your postage and don't send me a letter wanting me to sign up for your Mastercard Credit Card. How lame........Your letter just joined the hundreds of others I get on an annual basis. Just shows how desperate your company is becoming. If you want to get me to do more business with you, expand your product line and reduce your rates. Hail to the LBS's!!!!
Okay I feel better........
Okay I feel better........
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Save your postage and don't send me a letter wanting me to sign up for your Mastercard Credit Card. How lame........Your letter just joined the hundreds of others I get on an annual basis. Just shows how desperate your company is becoming. If you want to get me to do more business with you, expand your product line and reduce your rates. Hail to the LBS's!!!!
Okay I feel better........
Okay I feel better........
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DON"T SHRED! Stuff all the contents back in the postage paid envelop and return. This forces them to pay postage both ways doubling there postage costs and keep your friendly neighborhood postal worker employed.
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We can, though, just send the blank or name-obscured card or the envelope back.
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I thought this was going to be a recipe thread.
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My gripe is that the Performance/Nashbar conglomerate should spend half of the effort they spend on coming up with two new sales per "company" every week to make some real difference in their shipping delays.
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I do find it interesting that Capital One (or fill in any one of a dozen others) actually find it cost effective to send me dozens of pieces every month...
When my credit was questionable, I was especially curious why someone would continue to send me applications after refusing to give me credit.
But, it keeps us Postal workers employed.
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This might sound silly but it worked for me: For awhile every time I got junk mail from a credit card company, I mailed back in the free postpaid envelope the entire contents of the solicitation (including the outer envelope) and wrote, "Take me off your list." It took about six months, but I almost never get solicitations any more. Ah, the joys of being a cranky old man.
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No, please don't do this. I've heard and read numerous places that one of the reasons first class postage continues to go up (note I said ONE of the reasons) is because of reduced rate mail for business. Hence, every time business sends (or receives something in their postage paid return envelope) those of us who pay primarily first class rates end up subsidizing it.
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I've tried to make it a point not to give any personal information to retail stores during the check out process. I believe it is the collection of such information that forms the foundation of marketing data bases that get sold and re-sold. I believe if we can reduce the number of business places our private information is stored, we reduce the amount of junk mail we ultimately get. So, when a clerk asks for such information, I politely say, "You don't really need this." If they seem too flustered or insistent, I give them a pseudo name, address and phone number. So, if any of the retailers our there are reading this thread, yes, I'm the Herman Gluztmier that keeps showing up with the 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Washington DC address.
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Yes, they should focus more of their efforts upon selling $75 nutritional supplements
https://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...%20Supplements
https://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...%20Supplements
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I'm thinking the shipping delays are deliberate. Whenever I've paid the extra charge for 2nd day shipping my order has arrived promptly. If I opt for regular ground shipping, however, it takes the full 14 days. I think they deliberately wait 10 days before picking orders for regular ground shipping.
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No, please don't do this. I've heard and read numerous places that one of the reasons first class postage continues to go up (note I said ONE of the reasons) is because of reduced rate mail for business. Hence, every time business sends (or receives something in their postage paid return envelope) those of us who pay primarily first class rates end up subsidizing it.
The Postal Service is specifically prohibitted from subsidizing one type of mail by charging extra in another class of mail.
Business class mail is reduced rate because they do the sorting. I believe business return mail is pretty much not discounted.
However, I would be cautious about sending anything in the mail simply to get back at someone for sending advertising through the mail, or falsifying anything that uses the mail. The mail fraud statutes are very broad. I think sending something of no value, or false information in order to force someone to pay postage is probably within the scope of existing fraud laws. I am sure the usual up to X months in jail and Y thousands of dollars in fines are specified somewhere.
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I guess you could make that argument.........but what a shame. They ought to focus their time and energy at doing their core business better.
They have the look and smell of the Wal Mart of cycling........
God Bless the LBS's!!!!!!!!
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Still getting Junk mail over there???
One of the things that has occured over here is the predominance of Broadband. As virtually every home has a PC and if they don't, They have access. The UK has the highest number of homes connected to the net in Europe and the big problem is keeping your address secure enough to stop Spam.
We don't get junk mail- Just Spam.---And that gets shredded with the push of a button without even opening.
One of the things that has occured over here is the predominance of Broadband. As virtually every home has a PC and if they don't, They have access. The UK has the highest number of homes connected to the net in Europe and the big problem is keeping your address secure enough to stop Spam.
We don't get junk mail- Just Spam.---And that gets shredded with the push of a button without even opening.
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Still getting Junk mail over there???...One of the things that has occured over here is the predominance of Broadband. As virtually every home has a PC and if they don't, They have access. The UK has the highest number of homes connected to the net in Europe and the big problem is keeping your address secure enough to stop Spam....We don't get junk mail- Just Spam.---And that gets shredded with the push of a button without even opening.
In the UK, however, it's "non-obvious" that if you buy a bike part from a catalog that you would then be solicited by a third party for a credit card. So, while I believe it's legal for them to solicit you to purchase another bike part from them, it wouldn't be legal for them to rent your name for "non obvious" follow up purposes.
As a result, I don't think marketers rent names widely to other marketers. When I lived in the UK, I got probably 95% less "junk mail" than I do in the U.S. - and this was well before broadband was well penetrated in the UK (I was on dial-up in my home).
(BTW, there are a lot of PhD statisticians employed by the U.S. direct mail industry....none of us would be getting these credit card solicitations if it wasn't profitable for someone...)
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Basic misunderstanding: Performance Bike is not in the business to sell bike stuff, they are in the business to make money, and selling bike stuff is how they got their start. Like most any businesses, if they get the opportunity to make more money by selling cattle prods to shepherds in Outer Slobovia, they will do it! Credit cards are easy to make money off from, because there's no hardware to stock. They're probably paid per piece, by the bank, when they mail it. Supplements are another great money-maker - like cosmetics, they are dirt cheap to manufacture and the profit margin is just short of obscene (IMHO.)
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If I just make an enquiry to a compny by Internet- If I give my E-Mail address- I start getting all sorts of un-associated Mail from all sorts of companies. I get round this by Typing part of the address in CAPITal letters and then it gets rejected by the spamming senders computers as a bad address. Or I enter the address as doug@ instead of stapfam@. There must be someone with doug@ that gets a lot of funny mail.
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This is not true.
The Postal Service is specifically prohibitted from subsidizing one type of mail by charging extra in another class of mail.
Business class mail is reduced rate because they do the sorting. I believe business return mail is pretty much not discounted.
The Postal Service is specifically prohibitted from subsidizing one type of mail by charging extra in another class of mail.
Business class mail is reduced rate because they do the sorting. I believe business return mail is pretty much not discounted.
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What makes you think that the 82 cents in first class postage subsidizes the delivery of all of the business mail that is delivered in the same time, as opposed to the infrastructure to handle the pounds of business mail facilitating keeping the first class rate so low?
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