JAk

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JAK

speedlever

Yeah... somehow throwing bean sprouts on the grill just doesn't have the same appeal to me that grilling meat does.

However, I think many of the folks on the V-diets are there for specific reasons. Which thankfully I haven't found the necessity for... yet.

Just curious, for those on rigid V-diets, how do you deal with that when you travel and are gone for days at a time?

bigjim1

I'm curious. As mentioned many animals are vegetarion. How do bulls, gorillas, build all that muscle without protein?

Jim

screenwasher

The real question should perhaps be 'Any UNhealthy vegetarians here?'. In nearly six decades on a lacto-vegetarian diet, I have not had any related health issues or lack of protein intake. Most essential amino acids, minearals and vitamins are available from a balanced vegetarian diet. The one or two missing essential amino acids are in milk, cheese, yogurt etc.

Al.canoe

Not familiar with that study. The most solid data that I have comes from the China Study by Campbell. Note, this is the book, not the study report. The actual China study is but a small part of the book.

"A 2001 Harvard review of the research:

".........12 of 14 case-control studies and 7 of 9 cohort studies observed a positive association from some measure of dairy products and prostate cancer; this is one of the most consistent dietary predictors for prostate cancer in the published literature...................................... men with the highest dairy intakes had approximately double the risk of total prostate cancer and up to a fourfold increase in the risk of fatal cancer relative to low consumers.""

In my present situation, that's good enough for me to be an ultra low consumer. I'll eat a little cheese once in a while. This combined with a similar association with meat and cancer, while not "proof" (as Campbell states as well), but it indicates to me that treating animal based foods more as condiments until there is proof one way or the other may not a bad idea.

Al

kamalster

Every now and then I'll rob a bank, but really I'm a law-abiding citizen.

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MTBLover

Yes, those studies do indicate some association, although the Park study is probably better (very large cohort). We'd need a randomized control trial to really get at this question, but of course that's never going to happen- too many ethical and practical issues. All that said, there is some biology that makes the association between dairy intake and ca plausible, but with any study of dietary habits, it's extremely difficult to really get at this question. (Think how hard it is to remember everything you ate over the past month or even week- that's how food recall data are gathered.) Even so, I'm with you here that it's probably best to either avoid or at least limit dairy intake, which I do- even though I'm ovo-lacto, I substitute soy milk when I can (like on cereal, for example).

MTBLover

There is plenty of protein in non-animal sources. Check out this fascinating paper about the protein content in various grasses used for grazing.