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    OT: Gluten-free diet tips

    For health reasons, my DD is trying a gluten-free diet. Any tips, suggestions, or links would be helpful. Thanks.
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    My wife is on a strict gluten-free diet. It is a pain.

    The most frequent trip up are foods with modified food starch in them. A lot of yogurt & puddings have this, some ice creams & sour cream. Some soy sauce has wheat. Most baked potato chips, like Pringles, have wheat. Licorice has wheat. Most pre-packaged flavored rice dinners have wheat. Many salad dressings & mayonnaises have food starch. Several granola cereals have wheat, but not all of them. Nearly all meatloaf & meatballs will have wheat.

    It is okay to eat modified corn starch.

    My wife gets severe heartburn from eating gluten. She had it for 15 years, as doctors treated her for other causes. Then she started experimenting with removing things from her diet to see if that would help. She went off wheat for a few days and bamm ... about a 90% drop in heartburn.
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    Go to the Celiac Foundation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Weak Link View Post
    Go to the Celiac Foundation.
    Best source for information. My mother had the condition for 30 years and it is difficult to ensure that gluten free is kept to. Get your reading glasses on when shopping to look at the ingredients list on the can or packet.

    And just think---No PIE or a great number of desserts
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    There are a few people that for health reasons need to avoid gluten. But for the
    rest of us gluten is a good thing. The quality of a protein is largely determined by
    the presence of methionine.

    Gluten has methionine. It also has glutamine, which muscles eat like candy.

    I keep pure gluten on hand and when I am exercising a lot, I throw a little in.
    A little in meatloaf adds firmness, a little extra in bread helps
    make it lighter.
    It's great stuff that has gotten an undeserved bad rap due to a rare medical condition.
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    +100.

    Celiac disease is very easy to diagnose these days. They're the only ones who should be following that diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stapfam View Post

    And just think---No PIE or a great number of desserts
    You can still have pie. But you have to either make it yourself, using gluten-free flour, or buy it from a GF bakery.

    GF pie isn't bad. If the filling is top notch, it can still be good even if the crust isn't first rate.

    The number of GF foods available in grocery stores is increasing.

    When I attended the San Francisco farmer's market, there were a number of vendors hawking gluten-free products, including some tasty looking treats. We have a bakery here in Madison, named Silly Yaks, that specializes in GF baked goods.
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    Went to Whole Foods and they have quite a bit of gluten free products available, and are offering a gluten free cooking class in July.
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    I'd go to rawfamily.org

    I have been feeling great since going raw. Really. Fantastically so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony (Michigan) View Post
    I have been feeling great since going raw.
    Raw as in nude?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital Gee View Post
    For health reasons, my DD is trying a gluten-free diet. Any tips, suggestions, or links would be helpful. Thanks.
    Cook your own meals for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil View Post
    Raw as in nude?!?
    Ha Ha! Good one Tom.
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    While at Trader Joe's today, I saw a number of items labeled "gluten-free".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yen View Post
    While at Trader Joe's today, I saw a number of items labeled "gluten-free".
    Yep... I discovered this as well. In fact, we got some gluten free noodles and made a fantastic eggplant lasagne the other day. Whoa!
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    Rice bread, noodles, rice dream...

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    There are several alternatives to rice-based foods, which are gluten-free. My wife isn't a fan of rice pasta or rice bread. But there are corn & quinoa alternatives. And there are some interesting multi-grain mixes that use potato starch, tapioca, fava & garbanzo beans, and amaranth.

    Bob's Red Mill products are good, they have an extensive line of gluten-free products:
    http://www.bobsredmill.com/catalog/i...earch%A0%3C%3C
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    Celiac Disease is under-diagnosed in the USA... where approximately 1 in 233 people have it and 1 in 5000 are diagnosed... so it's not as easy to get diagnosed as you think.

    Many doctors aren't educated about it (it's not like the pharmaceutical reps are providing them any education about it -- because there is NOT a single medication that can be taken for it).

    There are lots of great foods to be made .. And you'll find it easier to eat out in some ethnic restaurants (whose cuisines are based on corn rather than wheat) or in restaurants with dedicated GF menus.

    The food limitations are NOT that bad -- you can have any vegetable, any fruit, any meat, any poultry, any seafood, any legumes, many grains,-- EXCEPT - the difficulty comes with processed foods --- and foods prepared in/near/with wheat and its cousins... which, sadly accounts for over 50% of the foods most people eat.

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    Rare

    [QUOTE= It's great stuff that has gotten an undeserved bad rap due to a rare medical condition.[/QUOTE]

    Rare? I have it as well as about one in every 133 persons to some extent. I went to a food fair in Denver with several hundred different people coming in and out all day long as well as vendors. Millions of people 13+ doesn't mean rare... It is often misdiagnosed as other ailments. Mine was for 20 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarmicPedals View Post
    Celiac Disease is under-diagnosed in the USA... where approximately 1 in 233 people have it and 1 in 5000 are diagnosed... so it's not as easy to get diagnosed as you think.

    Many doctors aren't educated about it (it's not like the pharmaceutical reps are providing them any education about it -- because there is NOT a single medication that can be taken for it).
    Bad karma, dude, bad karma.

    Diagnosis, easy.
    1. Celiac panel.
    2. Small bowel biopsy.

    As a matter of fact, the Promethius reps make plenty of office visits promoting their (excellent) panel. Don't blame them.

    BTW, we never recommend gluten-free diet without a diagnosis. All diets are subject to a rather large placebo effect.

    But go ahead and argue. What do I know?

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    A co-worker of mine's daughter had bowel issues from the time she was a toddler, worsening as she got older, extreme constipation chief among them. Finally at the age of 8 was tested--positive--now doing well on a gluten free diet. Her family MD had thought that if she had gluten intolerance she would have diarrhea, not constipation, & wouldn't test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarmicPedals View Post
    Celiac Disease is under-diagnosed in the USA... where approximately 1 in 233 people have it and 1 in 5000 are diagnosed... so it's not as easy to get diagnosed as you think.
    .
    Where does the "1 in 233" number come from???

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Weak Link View Post
    What do I know?
    Aren't you like, umm, a doctor or something?
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    1) The biopsy is not necessary (time for the physician education program to kick in).

    2) My number of 1 in 233 is extremely conservative. It is widely reported as underdiagnosed -- and by a greater number of undiagnosed patients. Here are some examples:

    Journal of American Medicine: incidence of between 1 in 100 and 1 in 200 and not diagnosed:

    http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/extract/292/8/913

    NIH, "Celiac Disease grossly underdiagnosed":

    http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/about/ddnews/spr06/1.htm


    1 in 100 and not diagnosed: says Peter H. Green, MD, professor of clinical medicine at Columbia University Medical School in New York City.

    http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disor...underdiagnosed

    Celiac Disease under-diagnosed in patients with Type 1 diabetes:

    http://www.imwr.com/issues/articles/2006-02_26.asp


    1 in 150 and not diagnosed:

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...60/ai_57007028

    see also:

    http://www.nih.gov/news/pr/jun2004/od-30.htm


    And, for those who'd really like to know more (if you have been diagnosed with one of more auto-immune diseases you SHOULD know more) -- see:

    http://www.celiac.org/downloads/AreY...inalJul_08.pdf

    For more about diagnosis, see:

    http://health.usnews.com/articles/he...c-disease.html
    Last edited by KarmicPedals; 08-26-08 at 01:38 PM.

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    Did you even read your own articles? From the WebMD post: Currently, a biopsy of the small intestine is considered the gold standard for diagnosing celiac disease, Green says. Doctors look for damage of the villi -- little finger-like protrusions in the small intestine important for absorbing nutrients.



    You are not a physician so you can't be guilty of malpractice, but people can and do get into trouble by claiming expertise they don't have and giving advice over the Internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Weak Link View Post
    Did you even read your own articles? From the WebMD post: Currently, a biopsy of the small intestine is considered the gold standard for diagnosing celiac disease, Green says. Doctors look for damage of the villi -- little finger-like protrusions in the small intestine important for absorbing nutrients.



    You are not a physician so you can't be guilty of malpractice, but people can and do get into trouble by claiming expertise they don't have and giving advice over the Internet.
    Read all of the articles -- there's a reason the word "currently" is there. Thank goodness I'm not a doctor -- I'd hate to be stuck with the think you know more than you possibly can label to live up to all the time -- while trying keep up with the patient overload required by insurance company payments.

    Meanwhile, this is additional interesting reading:

    http://www.bakeryandsnacks.com/Formu...es-gluten-free

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